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rbautch
03-26-2006, 11:56 PM
(I apologize in advance if my tone seems inappropriate...)

So, is there any way to do the Zipper upgrade without SPENDING FORTY BUCKS?

Let me guess, PTV raised the price for the boot cd from $5 to $19.99 shortly after the Zipper became popular...

OK, even assuming that I save $20 by (somehow) finding and downloading a 6.2 image, I still need to spend $20 to get the LBA48 boot disk w/ patched kernels (seems like the kernel patching aspect of this (tivo hacking) is the hardest part...)

I don't suppose anyone has done a "Poor Man's Guide to Zipper"?

q

PS yeah, twenty bucks is too much for me right now; but it's ALSO the principle of the thing...You're wrong. The boot disk is $5. If you can't scrape up $25 then maybe you shouldn't own a tivo...you should own a 9" black and white tv with rabbit ears. Perhaps you can ask the Dairy Queen manager for a raise, or ask your mom and dad to increase your allowance. Congratulations on doing it for free. Do you have any spare copies of Windows XP you can send me?

msommer
03-27-2006, 12:29 AM
Well done rbautch....

Don't think anyone could have summed it up any better!! LOL :)

Sounds like quaestor is one of those people who isn't happy unless there is something to complain about.

2500
03-27-2006, 12:42 AM
Check the troubleshooting tips in the Zipper Wikki.

Still no go

Phe0nix
03-27-2006, 01:29 AM
Also, if you just type "root" from anywhere, an alias will automatically open the file for editing.


typed "root"
and then i saw Joe editor in a grey banner at the bottom of my dos window
and noticed the grey banner at the top of the dos window showed ctrl + H
for help.So i hit ctrl + H for help but, Didn't see anything except the banner
that was at the bottom was gone.

I got concerned and so i closed the dos window and when i telented
back into the tivo and typed ls i see DEAD JOE listed in bold white letters
and i also don't see Tivowebplus dir. Don't know what else has changed. I've
restarted the Tivo and don't see "DEAD JOE" anymore but my directory structure
is still different as i don't see the TivoWebPlus dir listed anymore.

MATT1981M
03-27-2006, 04:26 AM
how do you stop the tivo from rebooting twice a week.... it is not supposed to do it when recording but it does....

MATT1981M
03-27-2006, 04:30 AM
You're wrong. The boot disk is $5. If you can't scrape up $25 then maybe you shouldn't own a tivo...you should own a 9" black and white tv with rabbit ears. Perhaps you can ask the Dairy Queen manager for a raise, or ask your mom and dad to increase your allowance. Congratulations on doing it for free. Do you have any spare copies of Windows XP you can send me?
i almost fell of my chair laughing when i read this... i especially like the part about dairy queen... that was truly a nice touch....

bengalfreak
03-27-2006, 06:29 AM
hmmm...

Interesting responses.

So, I'm at fault for wanting all the hard work of others for free.

But it's perfectly OK for ptv to charge $20 for the same (free) hard work.

I come from the free/open source community, so my views on all this are
*very* different from the tone that I generally sense around here
(and have since I first discovered this board and deal data base).

If anyone's interested in the least (doubtful), check out the writings of
Richard Stallman.

Oh, and the link at the Zipper page doesn't point to the (still available)
$5 boot CD. Kudos to ptv for providing value added at a *very* reasonable
price (no sarcasm).

q

PS I'll be enjoying my *hacked* DirecTivo; the point is I'll have done it
entirely on my own, without the help of a friendly and supportive community
at my back. If this doesn't make sense to you, spend some time around: the
Gentoo fora; the Ubuntu/Kubuntu fora; hell, even the CVS camera
hacking fora...

I think you're confused. PTV has nothing to do with the zipper. PTV supplies two products, the boot disk and the instant cake CD that the Zipper instructions make use of. Everything that PTV has assembled is available someplace for free. But PTV has paid for the right to assemble them in one location. In turn, they charge a nominal fee for the boot disk and reasonable fee for the instant cake image CD. To most people, they are worth it. Obviously to you, they are not which is fine.

What is not fine, are your comments about principle being the reason you wouldn't pay for the products. PTV has been invaluable to the hacking community. Before them, there was nowhere that you could legally get a Tivo image if you didn't have one to start with. At one point, Tivo's lawyers were issuing cease and desist letters to everyone hosting image files. So we're a little partial to PTV in this forum. If you want to do it without them, its fine. Just admit that, like me, you are cheap, and it has nothing to do with principle.

swizzlest
03-27-2006, 10:54 AM
Gunny and rbautch are gods.

Everyone should have a zipper.

'Nuff said. :)

Langree
03-27-2006, 10:57 AM
Gunny and rbautch are gods.

Everyone should have a zipper.

'Nuff said. :)

I prefer botton-fly myself, safer. :)

rbautch
03-27-2006, 01:08 PM
typed "root"
and then i saw Joe editor in a grey banner at the bottom of my dos window
and noticed the grey banner at the top of the dos window showed ctrl + H
for help.So i hit ctrl + H for help but, Didn't see anything except the banner
that was at the bottom was gone.

I got concerned and so i closed the dos window and when i telented
back into the tivo and typed ls i see DEAD JOE listed in bold white letters
and i also don't see Tivowebplus dir. Don't know what else has changed. I've
restarted the Tivo and don't see "DEAD JOE" anymore but my directory structure
is still different as i don't see the TivoWebPlus dir listed anymore. To bring up the list of joe commands, type cntrl-kh, not cntrl-h. I can't imagine joe would delete TWP.

Phe0nix
03-27-2006, 07:51 PM
Joe didn't delete it i can see it in my FTP, but i did notice when typing ls at the prompt it wasn't listed. I love the Zipper as i've become more familiar with it.
Thankyou all for all your obvious hard work and the hours you logged to make this possible.

Things i can do:

FTP ( IE & Flash )
Metapad for editing
Stream Music & Photos ( JavaHMO & Tivo Desktop )
an unmentioable that everyone wants
Telnet
TivoWebPlus ( Lan side )

Still unable to do:

Run TWP from my Gateway PC ( running: Tivo Desktop,tytools,Telnet, FTP & JavaHMO ) But can't run TivoWebPlus on this machine
Don't know how to start up Hackman
Locate my Media Access Key If applicable outside Tivo ( want it for TivoDesktop )



I would love to get TWP & Hackman running on my Gateway PC.

Thankyou fellas

Phe0nix

JWThiers
03-27-2006, 08:00 PM
OK I guess I am search challeged AGAIN. How do you serial telnet. I lost my wireless connection on my 2nd zipper job and need a bash prompt to fix. I followed the directions at www.tivohelp.com, modified mdmhayes.inf setup a new "modem", setup an incoming connection for tivo, open my network control panel (to monitor status, on my tivo I go into phone settings and change the Dialing prefix to #211 and test the connection and nothing happens. The only thing I am unsure of is the serial cable itself. tivohelp says that a cable for a Philips pronto works. I have ordered a cable from Tivo, but it isn't in yet. Am I doing anything wrong (or right)?

JWThiers
03-27-2006, 08:14 PM
Still unable to do:

Run TWP from my Gateway PC ( running: Tivo Desktop,tytools,Telnet, FTP & JavaHMO ) But can't run TivoWebPlus on this machine
Don't know how to start up Hackman
Locate my Media Access Key If applicable outside Tivo ( want it for TivoDesktop )



I would love to get TWP & Hackman running on my Gateway PC.

Thankyou fellas

Phe0nix
Median Access Key is a SA only thing, I think it enabled the legal extraction that SA tivo's do.
Hackman purposely wasn't turned on by zipper they were having a lot of problems with Noobs like me and you altering things that they needed. I guess Gunny and Rbautch figured if you can figure out how to turn it on yourself you are ready to use it.

rbautch
03-27-2006, 09:05 PM
Median Access Key is a SA only thing, I think it enabled the legal extraction that SA tivo's do.
Hackman purposely wasn't turned on by zipper they were having a lot of problems with Noobs like me and you altering things that they needed. I guess Gunny and Rbautch figured if you can figure out how to turn it on yourself you are ready to use it.
Well put!

rbautch
03-27-2006, 09:07 PM
OK I guess I am search challeged AGAIN. How do you serial telnet. I lost my wireless connection on my 2nd zipper job and need a bash prompt to fix. I followed the directions at www.tivohelp.com, modified mdmhayes.inf setup a new "modem", setup an incoming connection for tivo, open my network control panel (to monitor status, on my tivo I go into phone settings and change the Dialing prefix to #211 and test the connection and nothing happens. The only thing I am unsure of is the serial cable itself. tivohelp says that a cable for a Philips pronto works. I have ordered a cable from Tivo, but it isn't in yet. Am I doing anything wrong (or right)? It sounds like you are trying to make the daily call to tivo over the serial cable, at least that's what the steps you describe apply to. To get a bash prompt over a serial cable, just connect the cable, open hyperterminal, and hit the enter key a few times. Your speed settings in hyperterminal should 115k.

MATT1981M
03-27-2006, 09:53 PM
i can use TWP now.... yeah.... i finally have my ethernet adapters

2500
03-27-2006, 10:23 PM
Anybody know what happened to my last 3 or 4 posts ?

JWThiers
03-27-2006, 10:43 PM
It sounds like you are trying to make the daily call to tivo over the serial cable, at least that's what the steps you describe apply to. To get a bash prompt over a serial cable, just connect the cable, open hyperterminal, and hit the enter key a few times. Your speed settings in hyperterminal should 115k.
Thanks for the help.

BigBearf
03-27-2006, 10:43 PM
Gunny et al,
I have sucessfully zippered 4 SD-DVRs. Thanks. I am able to link wirelessly using both MN-510 and Linksys 111B version 2.6 adapters. I also have wired Farallon adapters from Weaknees that work well with the SD-DRVs but I am now trying to Zipper my HR10-250s. Unfortunately neither the MN-510 nor the Farallon adapters appear to be compatible with the HR10-250 because I only get a momentary blink of the adapter light and then no light. Stange that they work on the SD-DVRs but not on the HR10-250s. I get the Error 51 and I guess that I need to get a Netgear FA120 in order to telnet in the tivosh /busybox/51killer.tcl to move on.
Any thoughts would be appreciated and I though I would share my experience to maybe help another
Thanks

MATT1981M
03-27-2006, 11:07 PM
.... oh and by the way.... thank you.... that was very easy....

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 06:28 AM
yep no wireless for the HDTivo.

Adam1115
03-28-2006, 08:45 AM
For the same reason that you have 3 non-stock TiVo's yourself. . . .

TiVo allows info like this to exist to keep the community happy and away from more important things like theft of service etc.

Some postulate that is the main reason why they've allways been aware and allow the hacking community to exist.

Look at DirecTV as a HW manufacturer that locks you out of the kingdom (can't upgrade HD's on their DVR's now can you) ;)

Just my $0.02 . . . .

You're entitled to your opinion as well - just if it doesn't pertain to the zipper get the crap outta this thread :D

DXB

How do you figure that..? TiVo locked the Series2 down which is why you need to replace the Kernal to override their security.... Now the R10 and Seires 2.5's require a modification of the eeprom to defeat their security and allow software modification.

Obviously they don't WANT people in there.

That asside, I don't take issue with people modifying their TiVo's, am just wondering how defeating TiVo's encryption for the purpose of show extraction and MRV is allowed here, considering it's illegal...

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 08:52 AM
how is it illegal?
What am I STEALING from DTV or tivo?
IF tivo/DTV offered this stuff for a FEE then I could see it being illegal and service theft for example. If the features hacking provides were made available for a fee, I'd shut down the Zipper immediately.
By the way if something we were doing was not acceptable to Tivo, the Zipper thread would be shut down and I would receive a cease and desist order from Tivo/DTV. Neither has happened.

JWThiers
03-28-2006, 09:24 AM
How do you figure that..? TiVo locked the Series2 down which is why you need to replace the Kernal to override their security.... Now the R10 and Seires 2.5's require a modification of the eeprom to defeat their security and allow software modification.

Obviously they don't WANT people in there.

That asside, I don't take issue with people modifying their TiVo's, am just wondering how defeating TiVo's encryption for the purpose of show extraction and MRV is allowed here, considering it's illegal...
How is it illegal? It is not Theft of service, That would be hacking in and allowing access to ALL content when you are paying for some or none of it, and the DCMA allows for reverse engineering to allow for..., what was the phrase..., compatability and interopability(?). The only thing that is possibly in a grey area is extraction and as long as you are not distributing extracted copyrighted content and are only using it for personal viewing and archiving it falls under the category of FAIR USE.

The MRV and extraction prevention is mainly a problem that D* tivos have (MRV and Making DVD's is a feature that SA's already have). Unless I am mistaken (and I could be) ALL of the code to do MRV is already in the code it just can't be accessed. The Superpatch just allows changes made (basically uncommenting a few menu choices (sorry if that is oversimplified I know it was a lot of work but that is the effect)) not be removed by the system. We are just enabling a feature that they built in, but had turned off. I want it on.

Adam1115
03-28-2006, 11:36 AM
By disabling encryption to enable MRV, you are violating the Digital Millennium Copyright Act which prohibits disabling technological protections, such as encryption, that control access to a copyrighted work, control the distribution, reproduction, public performance, or public display of copyrighted work, or control the creation of derivative works from a copyrighted work.

The issue isn't that you are 'enabling' MRV or extraction, I agree, that would be fine. The issue is that you're defeating the encryption. The SA TiVo doesn't require you to disable encryption to stream shows to another TiVo or to extract shows to your computer. The encryption is their to prevent you from doing other things with it, such as streaming shows over the Internet. (The SA will only MRV to a TiVo on your account. The hacked TiVo will stream to ANY tivo on your 'network'.)

Beyond that being clear as day, the grey area is the fact that MRV is a service sold by TiVo for $12.99 a month not offered in the "TiVo Light" sold to you by DirecTV for $5/mo for as many boxes as you own.. but like I say, that point could be debated. The main point is a clear DMCA violation.

Not getting in to a moral debate, I'm just wondering why TCF allows talk of breaking encryption..

jar-head
03-28-2006, 11:56 AM
I have followed this thread for quite awhile now, and finally yesterday got inspired to take the plunge. I successfully zippered a brand-new 250gb HD by following the Zipper instructions word-for-word. Everything appears fine and I can telnet in and everything. However I do have one question:

When I look at my capacity in the System Info, it says it's only a ~30 hour tivo. What did I do wrong? I used the image from the PTV cd.

Do I have to redo everything to fix it, or can I apply something to it so that it will "see" my extra space?

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 12:42 PM
what kind of Tivo?
what Image from the PTV cd?

JWThiers
03-28-2006, 01:39 PM
By disabling encryption to enable MRV, you are violating the Digital Millennium Copyright Act which prohibits disabling technological protections, such as encryption, that control access to a copyrighted work, control the distribution, reproduction, public performance, or public display of copyrighted work, or control the creation of derivative works from a copyrighted work.
The DCMA has exceptions for reverse engineering to get compatability with other products. Also, and this hasn't been to the courts YET, FAIR USE allows you to make archival copies for PERSONAL USE. That is why VCR's are legal.

The issue isn't that you are 'enabling' MRV or extraction, I agree, that would be fine. The issue is that you're defeating the encryption. The SA TiVo doesn't require you to disable encryption to stream shows to another TiVo or to extract shows to your computer. The encryption is their to prevent you from doing other things with it, such as streaming shows over the Internet. (The SA will only MRV to a TiVo on your account. The hacked TiVo will stream to ANY tivo on your 'network'.)

The encryption had to be defeated to enable the ability to burn a dvd from your tivo content. Tivo Desktop requires a Media access key to enable this. D* does not support this so no media access key, No media access key no DVD burn. A side effect of defeating the encryption is that the the content is then able to be streamed to anyone on my 'network'. See my above comments on FAIR USE.

IMHO IF D* wanted to prevent streaming over the internet (as opposed to your home network) they would just enable HMO, MRV and TTG, then the encryption wouldn't need to be broken for this. The same goes for CD/DVD copy protection, the average home user just wants to exercise their fair use rights and make backup copies, personal mixes, and put the media on a device of their choice. The mass distributors of pirated media are going to do what they do no matter what and copy protection isn't going to stop them for long. Just long enough to crack the protection.

Beyond that being clear as day, the grey area is the fact that MRV is a service sold by TiVo for $12.99 a month not offered in the "TiVo Light" sold to you by DirecTV for $5/mo for as many boxes as you own.. but like I say, that point could be debated. The main point is a clear DMCA violation.

I (most here probably?) don't think it is "as clear as day". The $12.99 service fee is for updates to the guide information, Software updates, and hardware development. I may be wrong, I don't own a SA Tivo but, HMO and MRV do not require the service. Meaning you could have a tivo just hooked up to the network and use it as a server. Again I may be wrong, but can't you also use a tivo without service to manually record like an old VCR?

Not getting in to a moral debate, I'm just wondering why TCF allows talk of breaking encryption..

Probably primarily because TIVO doesn't mind. Probably a consideration for D* making a DVR.

Peace.

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 01:52 PM
Snipped


Not getting in to a moral debate, I'm just wondering why TCF allows talk of breaking encryption..
You will have to ask the Owner of the forum that question.

Phe0nix
03-28-2006, 02:05 PM
Lastnight i feel asleep while watching tivo and during the wee hours of the morning i awoke to the sound of the television and turned it off. This morning when i turned it back on it was frozen on the channel i had been last watching.
It has never done that in the last 3 years and i've just installed the zipper on it
3 days ago so i am confinident it's related in some way or other. Any ideas as to
what could cause this.

Thankyou

jar-head
03-28-2006, 02:37 PM
what kind of Tivo?A DirecTivo. SD-DVR40.

what Image from the PTV cd?I copied the image from PTVupgrade's Instantcake CD that I bought for $20 (Zipper Step 1) to the Tools CD (Step 4). Then I burnt the Tools CD, ran the Zipper (Step 5), and when it asked me if I wanted to apply the image I said yes. Everything went smooth and I can telnet to the Tivo and I have Tivo Webplus working even. It's just that it only shows that it's 35 hours capacity when I know the HD is 250gb.

MATT1981M
03-28-2006, 02:40 PM
A DirecTivo. SD-DVR40.

I copied the image from PTVupgrade's Instantcake CD that I bought for $20 (Zipper Step 1) to the Tools CD (Step 4). Then I burnt the Tools CD, ran the Zipper (Step 5), and when it asked me if I wanted to apply the image I said yes. Everything went smooth and I can telnet to the Tivo and I have Tivo Webplus working even. It's just that it only shows that it's 35 hours capacity when I know the HD is 250gb.
When you used the instacake cd, did it say how many hrs your tivo was going to be able to record....

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 02:44 PM
A DirecTivo. SD-DVR40.

I copied the image from PTVupgrade's Instantcake CD that I bought for $20 (Zipper Step 1) to the Tools CD (Step 4). Then I burnt the Tools CD, ran the Zipper (Step 5), and when it asked me if I wanted to apply the image I said yes. Everything went smooth and I can telnet to the Tivo and I have Tivo Webplus working even. It's just that it only shows that it's 35 hours capacity when I know the HD is 250gb.
Ok
couple of things
1) go to the system info screen and tell me what the software version you have is.
2) did your PC's BIOS recognize the full 250 gig capacity?
3) like a previous poster said, how many hours did the restore say you had when you finished?
4) is the new HD installed in the tivo as a master, or a cable select? also, check the jumpers on the drive.

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 02:45 PM
Lastnight i feel asleep while watching tivo and during the wee hours of the morning i awoke to the sound of the television and turned it off. This morning when i turned it back on it was frozen on the channel i had been last watching.
It has never done that in the last 3 years and i've just installed the zipper on it
3 days ago so i am confinident it's related in some way or other. Any ideas as to
what could cause this.

Thankyou
frozen and required a reboot? or pressing a button on the remote took you back to NPL?

jar-head
03-28-2006, 02:46 PM
When you used the instacake cd, did it say how many hrs your tivo was going to be able to record....Hmm..I don't remember it ever saying that. It just asked me if I wanted to apply the image, and I said yes. Then it took a few minutes to apply it and just had a running percentage. Then when that was done I rebooted, and repeated steps B through G, but this time said no to the image install.

Phe0nix
03-28-2006, 02:49 PM
How do you start hackman up. Ok so you've disabled it. I located the hackman.html file and see the instructions and verified the files being in their correct locations. Except you've modifed one of those files to disable it so newbies
wouldn't mess up things. I won't be changing any of the hacks startup routines except for having hackman startup. If i mess up my zipper install i can always pull the drive and do anotehr low level format and reinstall zipper. No Big deal there.
Or if won't say i guess i can change directories to R/W and replace Hackamn with all the files included in hackman.zip easlily found on the net.

rc.sysinit.author

jar-head
03-28-2006, 02:50 PM
Ok
couple of things
1) go to the system info screen and tell me what the software version you have is.
2) did your PC's BIOS recognize the full 250 gig capacity?
3) like a previous poster said, how many hours did the restore say you had when you finished?
4) is the new HD installed in the tivo as a master, or a cable select? also, check the jumpers on the drive.
1) 6.2-01-2-351
2) Yes
3) I don't remember anywhere it said how many hours.
4) It's master. It came in the box as cable select and I changed it to master.

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 02:53 PM
sounds like a restore didn't happen correctly
you can TRY pulling the drive and doing the mfsadd command. Check the upgrade forum for proper syntax, but you may just want to redo the zipper.
if you decide to redo the zipper pay particular attention to the image restore phase and let me know here if you see any weird messages or errors and please report capacity the restore reports.

shn2006
03-28-2006, 02:53 PM
Hi.
I am finally getting ready to take the plunge... Gong to buy the Linux CD from PTV.

I've got DTivo DSR7000 with virgin 6.2 OS pushed by DTV. I am hoping to keep my old HD as is for safekeeping and create a new image on larger HD (80GB) first.
Now I understand that I can create image of HD and expand it on new HD using MFStools and then use zipper with CD minue the 0001 file.

Question now: My PC HD doesn't have the space available ( I think I've got about 2.5 GB free)... Is there a way to mount both old and new DTivo HD on HDC and HDD and transfer the image directly to new HD without involving space on PC HD? I am not sure if I am asking the right question...
my basic dilemma is that I need to be able to transfer old encrypted recordings also to the new HD and my PC space may not permit that...

BTW... great job with zipper... thank you - thank you so much for taking the pain to provide us this tool and support the info in this thread...
Sincerely,
ShN

MurrayW
03-28-2006, 02:55 PM
First of all, I'd like to thank Gunnyman, rbautch and others who have taken the time to make this all easier for others like me. I plan to zipper my DirecTiVo's soon and have read through a good portion of this 160 page thread, but just want to make sure I have everything ready before I dig into this.

Here's what I have now:
2 HR10-250's
2 Philips DSR7000
1 Hughes DVR2
1 DirecTV R10 -- going to replace it with one of the other 5 above.

Currently, only 1 of the HR10-250's and the R10 are active on my account. I got the others through the DVR4Me promotion and CraigsList. I most likely will leave one of the non-HD DirecTiVo's unactivated and just use it as an MRV unit, but I would like to leave my option open to activate it in the future.
Question 1: Do I need to activate the units before hacking them?
Question 2: If the answer to #1 is yes, then is my best option for the MRV only unit is to hack it and use it for now, then in the future if I decide to add it to my DirecTV account, to just put in the original drive during activation, then switch back to the hacked drive?
1 HR10-250 Instant Cake CD.
Question 3: I am assuming that I need 1 more for the 3 non-HD DirecTivo's and that I can use the same CD for the Philips and Hughes DirecTivos, correct?
1 LBA48 Boot CD that I originally bought for my HR10-250.
Question 4: Can this can be used for both my HR10-250's and my 3 non-HD DirecTiVo's, or do I need another one specifically for those DirecTiVo's?
1 cable to support 2 drives and brackets for the 2nd drive ordered for my HR10-250.
Question 5: For my remaining 4 DirecTiVo's, do they use the same brackets and cables?
1 USB200M version 1 USB adapter.
3 Linksys WUSB11 ver 2.6 (I most likely will not use these as I can use wired connections in all my locations).
Question 6: I have 1 wired adapter for 5 DirecTiVo's, so I will need to pick up 4 additional adapters -- should I stick with the USB200M for consistency or would I be better off buying a Netgear FA120 or some other wired adapter? My router is a Linksys if that matters.

This is what I want to do:

I will be taking out the original drives and storing them for safekeeping.
Question 7: Do I need to save both HR10-250's or could I just save one and write over the original 250 Gb drive? In otherwords, if I had to put an original drive back into one of the HR10-250's would it matter which one -- are they married to the hardware in any way?
I will install 2 250 or 300 Gb drives into each unit.
Question 8: Is it best to fully set up one drive first, then add the 2nd drives to each DirecTiVo?
Question 9: After I set up the first HR10-250 drive, is there a way to clone the hard drive to use in the 2nd HR10-250 or should I just go through the whole zipper sequence again?
Question 10: Same question as #9 for the first non-HD DirecTiVo with respect to the disk for the first non-HD DirecTiVo for the 2nd and 3rd DirecTiVo.

Sorry for so many questions, but I just wanted to make sure I have everything I need.

thanks!

Murray

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 02:57 PM
How do you start hackman up. Ok so you've disabled it. I located the hackman.html file and see the instructions and verified the files being in their correct locations. Except you've modifed one of those files to disable it so newbies
wouldn't mess up things. I won't be changing any of the hacks startup routines except for having hackman startup. If i mess up my zipper install i can always pull the drive and do anotehr low level format and reinstall zipper. No Big deal there.
Or if won't say i guess i can change directories to R/W and replace Hackamn with all the files included in hackman.zip easlily found on the net.

rc.sysinit.author
hackman was removed from the zipper.
If you want to install it portland paw has a support thread here.
We didn't disable hackman itself, again, we removed it. the author modified the module to force you to read the readme before you can use it.

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 02:58 PM
Hi.
I am finally getting ready to take the plunge... Gong to buy the Linux CD from PTV.

I've got DTivo DSR7000 with virgin 6.2 OS pushed by DTV. I am hoping to keep my old HD as is for safekeeping and create a new image on larger HD (80GB) first.
Now I understand that I can create image of HD and expand it on new HD using MFStools and then use zipper with CD minue the 0001 file.

Question now: My PC HD doesn't have the space available ( I think I've got about 2.5 GB free)... Is there a way to mount both old and new DTivo HD on HDC and HDD and transfer the image directly to new HD without involving space on PC HD? I am not sure if I am asking the right question...
my basic dilemma is that I need to be able to transfer old encrypted recordings also to the new HD and my PC space may not permit that...

BTW... great job with zipper... thank you - thank you so much for taking the pain to provide us this tool and support the info in this thread...
Sincerely,
ShN
yes look at weaknees guide in the upgarde forum I think its teh 1st or second sticky

jar-head
03-28-2006, 03:04 PM
sounds like a restore didn't happen correctly
you can TRY pulling the drive and doing the mfsadd command. Check the upgrade forum for proper syntax, but you may just want to redo the zipper.
if you decide to redo the zipper pay particular attention to the image restore phase and let me know here if you see any weird messages or errors and please report capacity the restore reports.Thanks. I will try those things and see what happens. Just to make sure I'm doing this right if I redo it, do I:
A) Copy the 000001 image to the Tools CD and let the Tools CD put the image onto the hard drive?
B) Use the Instantcake CD with the original 000001 image and put that on the hard drive with that CD, then run zipper?

Does it matter? If I do either the capacity will be right? I did A the first time around. Just making sure I don't make the same mistake twice.

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 03:05 PM
A or B should give the same result

shn2006
03-28-2006, 03:06 PM
yes look at weaknees guide in the upgarde forum I think its teh 1st or second sticky

Thank you - that's exactly what I needed... you're the best gunnyman...

RxMan
03-28-2006, 03:24 PM
I had lots of USB issues and then had to give up on trying to get it to work. It turns out that my Linksys USB100TX driver is not getting loaded or is not included with the zipper. I have used this USB adapter with a previous HR10-250 and it worked just fine. Any ideas how to get it to work again?

Phe0nix
03-28-2006, 03:43 PM
hackman was removed from the zipper.
If you want to install it portland paw has a support thread here.
We didn't disable hackman itself, again, we removed it. the author modified the module to force you to read the readme before you can use it.


A new version (http://169.244.187.60/DRH/hackman/LatestVersion/) was just released today ( 4.2.2 ) . Maybe its been changed



Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:34 PM 351147 hackman-V4.1.0.zip

Sunday, February 26, 2006 1:07 PM 353669 hackman-V4.2.0.zip

Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:21 AM 354005 hackman-V4.2.2.zip

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 03:44 PM
I THINK and someone correct me if I am wrong, the Linksys 100TX is usb 1.1 ONLY. there aren't USB 2.0 drivers for it.

MATT1981M
03-28-2006, 03:55 PM
I THINK and someone correct me if I am wrong, the Linksys 100TX is usb 1.1 ONLY. there aren't USB 2.0 drivers for it.
i believe you are correct...

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 03:57 PM
A new version (http://169.244.187.60/DRH/hackman/LatestVersion/) was just released today ( 4.2.2 ) . Maybe its been changed



Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:34 PM 351147 hackman-V4.1.0.zip

Sunday, February 26, 2006 1:07 PM 353669 hackman-V4.2.0.zip

Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:21 AM 354005 hackman-V4.2.2.zip
Is this a question?

MATT1981M
03-28-2006, 03:59 PM
Is this a question?
i believe so... but cant the hackman.itcl file just be edited and installed with the zipper to take care of the situation....

RxMan
03-28-2006, 04:01 PM
How did my other HR10-250 work just fine with it? Can I still get the correct drivers for it?

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 04:02 PM
The point I TRIED to make and seemingly failed at miserably is Portlandpaw is the author of hackman. It's not included in the Zipper, thus not in the scope of this thread.
The Hackman readme FULLY explains how to install/enable hackman.

MATT1981M
03-28-2006, 04:03 PM
How did my other HR10-250 work just fine with it? Can I still get the correct drivers for it?
that is a good question... gunny, can he just FTP the old drivers back on or does he need to start with a fresh image and just say no to the drivers....

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 04:04 PM
How did my other HR10-250 work just fine with it? Can I still get the correct drivers for it?

did you install 2.0 drivers on the HR10-250?
also some USB adapters do a "new firmware self install" when you use them on a Tivo. I had a microsoft wireless adapter do this and it would only work on the tivo I installed it on.

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 04:05 PM
that is a good question... gunny, can he just FTP the old drivers back on or does he need to start with a fresh image and just say no to the drivers....

the old drivers are in /lib/modules on the tivo with a .backup extension.

MATT1981M
03-28-2006, 04:05 PM
The point I TRIED to make and seemingly failed at miserably is Portlandpaw is the author of hackman. It's not included in the Zipper, thus not in the scope of this thread.
The Hackman readme FULLY explains how to install/enable hackman.
good pt.... for all of those who dont want to sit and read the how to... it is valid info so i would read it if i was you... but if you want to, just read the last 25% and you will find what you are looking for...

MATT1981M
03-28-2006, 04:06 PM
the old drivers are in /lib/modules on the tivo with a .backup extension.
and where should he put them????....mmm maybe is should rephrase that one...lol

RxMan
03-28-2006, 04:07 PM
did you install 2.0 drivers on the HR10-250?
also some USB adapters do a "new firmware self install" when you use them on a Tivo. I had a microsoft wireless adapter do this and it would only work on the tivo I installed it on.

I just ran the zipper. Not sure what exactly gets installed with it.

On my previous HR10-250 I had someone guide me through it. I manually did killinitrd and added the drivers, hacks, etc...

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 04:12 PM
and where should he put them????....mmm maybe is should rephrase that one...lol
you can run the tweak-uninstall script found in /hacks then re-run the tweak.sh saying NO to USB 2.0 or just get a Netgear FA120 on ebay.

MATT1981M
03-28-2006, 04:21 PM
you can run the tweak-uninstall script found in /hacks then re-run the tweak.sh saying NO to USB 2.0 or just get a Netgear FA120 on ebay.
sweet... one thing i would add is if you are using telnet via Serial PPP, do a RZ and send over the rbautch_files.tgz to the same directory you have tweak.sh.... otherwise it will need to connect to the internet to dwnld the using the tivo.... of course this should be ok for you since you have an adapter and your old drivers were working, but if you were like me a few days ago and didnt have an adapter, it would kinda suck with out that file on there....

RxMan
03-28-2006, 04:25 PM
sweet... one thing i would add is if you are using telnet via Serial PPP, do a RZ and send over the rbautch_files.tgz to the same directory you have tweak.sh.... otherwise it will need to connect to the internet to dwnld the using the tivo.... of course this should be ok for you since you have an adapter and your old drivers were working, but if you were like me a few days ago and didnt have an adapter, it would kinda suck with out that file on there....

I don't have the first HD-Tivo, my brother has it and it's working fine. I guess I would need to move the file over first then. What are the chances that choosing NO for USB2.0 would not fix my USB100TX?

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 04:27 PM
the 1.1 drivers that SHOULD exist in the 3.x software will work fine.
I can't say for sure because the oldest tivo software version I have networked is 4.01b.
The driver for that adapter is there and in subsequent releases.

MATT1981M
03-28-2006, 04:29 PM
I don't have the first HD-Tivo, my brother has it and it's working fine. I guess I would need to move the file over first then. What are the chances that choosing NO for USB2.0 would not fix my USB100TX?
there is a chance... anything can happen... the nice thing about the zipper according to how i understand it is that it makes backups of everything it changes so when you uninstall it, your drivers will be put back..... I would give it a shot... you dont have to pull the drives again and it is easy...

MATT1981M
03-28-2006, 04:33 PM
the 1.1 drivers that SHOULD exist in the 3.x software will work fine.
I can't say for sure because the oldest tivo software version I have networked is 4.01b.
The driver for that adapter is there and in subsequent releases.
that's right... i forgot that they are still using 3.3 on that dtivo.... I really wish DTV would get that updated and also get tivo back into their DVR lineup... sell both and give customers the option of which one they want.... i hate to say this... but i might actually pay more for the DVR svc if they did that... and of course when i say more i mean maybe 10.00 ttl per mo 1x fee for all of my dtivo's on my acct....

RxMan
03-28-2006, 04:39 PM
the 1.1 drivers that SHOULD exist in the 3.x software will work fine.
I can't say for sure because the oldest tivo software version I have networked is 4.01b.
The driver for that adapter is there and in subsequent releases.

OK. Maybe it was something as simple as that. Do I need to move a file over like Matt mentioned or just uninstall and re-install zipper choosing NO for USB2.0?

RxMan
03-28-2006, 04:41 PM
I know I did Zipper twice. I'm not sure if I tried Yes and No on USB2.0 last time. For some reason I thought I had to activate some drivers to get the USB port to work on my first HD-Tivo.

MATT1981M
03-28-2006, 04:46 PM
I know I did Zipper twice. I'm not sure if I tried Yes and No on USB2.0 last time. For some reason I thought I had to activate some drivers to get the USB port to work on my first HD-Tivo.
with the zipper it enables the usb ports on the tivo... you dont have to tell it to do that.... it automatically does that.... what you would be doing is saying yes to the usb2.0 drivers if you were going to use a usb2.0 adapter like the usb200m from linksys... you wont need to send that file i mentioned earlier if you run the tweak.sh script and it works... if it doesnt because of some error saying you need to download the latest copy of the files then you would need to do it at that time....

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 04:48 PM
OK. Maybe it was something as simple as that. Do I need to move a file over like Matt mentioned or just uninstall and re-install zipper choosing NO for USB2.0?
uninstall and re-install should work fine just say NO to usb 2.0 if it doesn't pull the drive and re zipper.

MurrayW
03-28-2006, 05:36 PM
I hate to do this, but there has been so much activity lately, I am wondering if my earlier post (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=3899737#post3899737) got lost amongst all the others. I know it was quite long, but I would appreciate some input on even some of the questions (you don't have to reply to all 10. :D

I just want to join the crowd in all the fun you are having with your hacked TiVo's. ;)

Thanks,

Murray

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 05:57 PM
I hate to do this, but there has been so much activity lately, I am wondering if my earlier post (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=3899737#post3899737) got lost amongst all the others. I know it was quite long, but I would appreciate some input on even some of the questions (you don't have to reply to all 10. :D

I just want to join the crowd in all the fun you are having with your hacked TiVo's. ;)

Thanks,

Murray
Question 1: Do I need to activate the units before hacking them?
no
Question 3: I am assuming that I need 1 more for the 3 non-HD DirecTivo's and that I can use the same CD for the Philips and Hughes DirecTivos, correct?
you can and if these units already have 6.2 you don't HAVE to buy an image at all

1 LBA48 Boot CD that I originally bought for my HR10-250.
Quote:
Question 4: Can this can be used for both my HR10-250's and my 3 non-HD DirecTiVo's, or do I need another one specifically for those DirecTiVo's?
same disk works for both SD and HD Tivo
Question 5: For my remaining 4 DirecTiVo's, do they use the same brackets and cables?
No idea not a huge fan of two drive installs. Too much heat and harder to diagnose problems

Question 6: I have 1 wired adapter for 5 DirecTiVo's, so I will need to pick up 4 additional adapters -- should I stick with the USB200M for consistency or would I be better off buying a Netgear FA120 or some other wired adapter? My router is a Linksys if that matters.
Each tivo will need an adapter and since USB 200 M v1's are getting so hard to find I'd get an FA120

Question 7: Do I need to save both HR10-250's or could I just save one and write over the original 250 Gb drive? In otherwords, if I had to put an original drive back into one of the HR10-250's would it matter which one -- are they married to the hardware in any way?
yes the drives are matched to the TiVos

Question 8: Is it best to fully set up one drive first, then add the 2nd drives to each DirecTiVo?
you can do it either way. Only the MASTER HD needs to be zippered.

Question 9 &10 : After I set up the first HR10-250 drive, is there a way to clone the hard drive to use in the 2nd HR10-250 or should I just go through the whole zipper sequence again?
cloning would work fine
see the weaknees sticky in the Upgrade forum for details

I would have answered sooner but I needed to take a nap before I could tackle it. :p

2500
03-28-2006, 06:08 PM
Hey I got telnet back. I went ahead and wiped (zero-ed ) the drive , reloaded the image and I'm back in business.

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 06:10 PM
glad to hear it :)
You are certainly NOT an ID10T :)

rbautch
03-28-2006, 06:13 PM
By disabling encryption to enable MRV, you are violating the Digital Millennium Copyright Act which prohibits disabling technological protections, such as encryption, that control access to a copyrighted work, control the distribution, reproduction, public performance, or public display of copyrighted work, or control the creation of derivative works from a copyrighted work.

The issue isn't that you are 'enabling' MRV or extraction, I agree, that would be fine. The issue is that you're defeating the encryption. The SA TiVo doesn't require you to disable encryption to stream shows to another TiVo or to extract shows to your computer. The encryption is their to prevent you from doing other things with it, such as streaming shows over the Internet. (The SA will only MRV to a TiVo on your account. The hacked TiVo will stream to ANY tivo on your 'network'.)

Beyond that being clear as day, the grey area is the fact that MRV is a service sold by TiVo for $12.99 a month not offered in the "TiVo Light" sold to you by DirecTV for $5/mo for as many boxes as you own.. but like I say, that point could be debated. The main point is a clear DMCA violation.

Not getting in to a moral debate, I'm just wondering why TCF allows talk of breaking encryption..
Tivo no longer sells MRV/HMO, they offer it for free, which is why it's no longer illegal to hack our tivos to use it. Extracting shows is no different than taping a show on VCR. That's a debateable topic, but that's how I see it.

MurrayW
03-28-2006, 06:14 PM
...

I would have answered sooner but I needed to take a nap before I could tackle it. :p
I knew that asking so many questions in one post was taking a risk! I am glad you were able to answer it after being well rested. You must take very short naps, because it looks like there hasn't been more than 10 minutes go by without a post by you! :D

If I have questions along the way, I will be sure to ask them 1 at a time to make it easier on everybody.

Seriously, I really appreciate all the time you devote to helping others in this area.

Thanks again.

Murray

Phe0nix
03-28-2006, 06:30 PM
I've asked this a couple time already but it's been looked over. I can't pull up TWP on my desktop ( gateway pc ) but i can ping it , Telnet (http://www.thepcaddict.com/TWP.JPG) and run tytool,javaHMO and FTP via IE and FlashFXP on this PC.

I can only pull up TWP on a PC on the LAN side of the router but can do so many other things on the Desktop PC that are Tivo related. Any ideas on what could
be the problem.

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 06:33 PM
what happens when you put the Tivo's Ip address into the browser?
are you running windows XP or any other software firewall? is this PC and your Tivo on the same subnet?

MATT1981M
03-28-2006, 06:36 PM
I hate to do this, but there has been so much activity lately, I am wondering if my earlier post (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=3899737#post3899737) got lost amongst all the others. I know it was quite long, but I would appreciate some input on even some of the questions (you don't have to reply to all 10. :D

I just want to join the crowd in all the fun you are having with your hacked TiVo's. ;)

Thanks,

Murray
im no expert but i concur with gunny regarding the dual drive setup. if i was you and i still wanted to have a dual drive unit, i would add 2 additional fans. I would use a dremel and drill mount holes and cut a large hole for the fan directly over each hard drive. I would prefer to cut a single large hole over each and then use a fan grill or some aluminum screen mesh so i have adequate ventilation without much restriction but still prevent things from falling in the tivo. And depending on the clearance above the HD, i may even mount the fans on the outside of the case pointing in.... I would direct one fan to blow in and the other out. This way you have increased airflow on the hard drives and still maintain adequate airflow accross the power supply....
it would look like crap most likely, but would worl great if the unit you are working with is a "server" unit that is not activated but has MRV and HMO enabled for archives.... just put it on a shelf in the closet with a ethernet cable, power and a coax line connected to the rf tv out... this way you can hook the RF cable to a tv nearby and still be able to utilize the unit's menus for transferring recordings to the "server"

Phe0nix
03-28-2006, 06:39 PM
Thankyou Gunny.

Tivo's ip into Internet Explorer = There was a communication problem ( TCP_ERROR )

Yes , i'm running Windows XP Pro

I am runing Norton Internet Securties. ( IE is added to it )
i can FTP with NIS enabled via IE with no problems.

Tivo subnet = 255.255.255.0
Gateway PC = 255.255.192.0
LAN Pc's = 255.255.255.0

Is there a way you know of to get around this such as maybe static routing
via the router or something?

Thanks

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 06:42 PM
the subnet is causing the problem
static routing is a way to fix it. any reason thsi gateway HAS to be on a separate subnet?

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 06:44 PM
if you can't get around the subnet issue look into putting the tivo on the internet and browsing to it that way.
I can hit my tivo from anywhere in the world with tivo.thewallens.net for example.

Phe0nix
03-28-2006, 06:47 PM
Yes, there is a good reason. I have Starband ( i live in the sticks ). Starband if your not aware of it is like DirectWay ( now HugesNet ) where your connected to
the internet via satellite. The modem for Starband runs on 255.255.192.0 and you
have to configure your NIC to match or it won't work. I've installed a second NIC
in my gateway PC with 255.255.255.0 and connected it to my router to share the connection. Becuase of the way Starband functions i'll never be able to access TWP via the internet unless i can figure out how to do static routing.

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 06:49 PM
gotcha
sounds like you need a network expert and that ain't me.

Phe0nix
03-28-2006, 06:52 PM
Can you go into detail about "putting the tivo on the internet and browsing to it that way"

I have the tivo connected to the router just like the LAN PC's and they can access the internet. So the only thing i can gather from this statement is to connect it to the modem and there are no other RJ45 connections inaddition to the one i'm currently using

MurrayW
03-28-2006, 06:59 PM
OK, you guys are kind of scaring me out of the 2 drive setup. I guess if they are all networked, and I can access the files on any of the 3 SD DirecTiVo's that would give me 750 GB of space (each would have a 250 GB drive).

I could also pull off any shows that I wanted to archive and put them on a drive on one of my computers. I assume that once I pull a show off of a TiVo onto a regular computer, that I can't get it back on to the TiVo from the TiVo -- I would have to do it from the PC correct?

Also, from what I have been reading, I wouldn't be able to "easily" share shows between the 2 HD TiVo's or share SD shows with the other 3 SD TiVo's correct?

See, I am getting better...only 2 questions this time!

thanks,

Murray

MATT1981M
03-28-2006, 07:03 PM
Yes, there is a good reason. I have Starband ( i live in the sticks ). Starband if your not aware of it is like DirectWay ( now HugesNet ) where your connected to
the internet via satellite. The modem for Starband runs on 255.255.192.0 and you
have to configure your NIC to match or it won't work. I've installed a second NIC
in my gateway PC with 255.255.255.0 and connected it to my router to share the connection. Becuase of the way Starband functions i'll never be able to access TWP via the internet unless i can figure out how to do static routing.
many routers have the option to "clone" mac addresses... for instance my WRT54G Linksys has this option... get one that does and all can be on the same subnet... problem solved.

MurrayW
03-28-2006, 07:04 PM
One more question. :) Gunnyman you said that I wouldn't have to buy an image if my SD TiVo's had 6.2 already.

Does this mean that all 3 would need to have 6.2 or would I be able to get by with 6.2 only one of them?

I am planning on replacing the original drives with larger ones, so is the 6.2 only needed if I wanted to go back to the original disk if I had problems? So that if I was willing to live with some downtime, I could wait until I actually needed a 6.2 image to order InstantCake?

Actually that wasn't one more question, but since they were all related does that count?

thanks,

Murray

MATT1981M
03-28-2006, 07:10 PM
OK, you guys are kind of scaring me out of the 2 drive setup. I guess if they are all networked, and I can access the files on any of the 3 SD DirecTiVo's that would give me 750 GB of space (each would have a 250 GB drive)....

I could also pull off any shows that I wanted to archive and put them on a drive on one of my computers. I assume that once I pull a show off of a TiVo onto a regular computer, that I can't get it back on to the TiVo from the TiVo -- I would have to do it from the PC correct? you can using "TivoServer" (http://www.thewallens.net/Zipperwiki/index.php?title=TivoServer_Quick_Install_Instructions). it makes your tivo think that a specific folder on your PC is a separate tivo.


Also, from what I have been reading, I wouldn't be able to "easily" share shows between the 2 HD TiVo's or share SD shows with the other 3 SD TiVo's correct? it is very easy. you just go thru the "Now Playing" list on the tivo you want to watch the file on, and select the tivo the file you want is on. you then select the file and tell the tivo that you want to watch it on this tivo. it will then transfer the video to that tivo for you to watch

problem solved

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 07:13 PM
Can you go into detail about "putting the tivo on the internet and browsing to it that way"

I have the tivo connected to the router just like the LAN PC's and they can access the internet. So the only thing i can gather from this statement is to connect it to the modem and there are no other RJ45 connections inaddition to the one i'm currently using
I'd use MAC address cloning and plug the starband into the router if it was me.

MATT1981M
03-28-2006, 07:14 PM
One more question. :) Gunnyman you said that I wouldn't have to buy an image if my SD TiVo's had 6.2 already.

Does this mean that all 3 would need to have 6.2 or would I be able to get by with 6.2 only one of them?

I am planning on replacing the original drives with larger ones, so is the 6.2 only needed if I wanted to go back to the original disk if I had problems? So that if I was willing to live with some downtime, I could wait until I actually needed a 6.2 image to order InstantCake?

Actually that wasn't one more question, but since they were all related does that count?

thanks,

Murray
you can use one of the SD tivo's with 6.2 sw as a "source" and then just MFS the image on the new drives...you can do this with a MFS tools Boot CD, which you can get free on TCF, or if you have purchased the LBA48 boot disk, it includes a copy of MFS Tools....

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 07:16 PM
and you will need the 5 dollar boot cd anyway :)

MATT1981M
03-28-2006, 07:18 PM
and you will need the 5 dollar boot cd anyway :)
oops... that's right... i knew i was forgetting something....

JWThiers
03-28-2006, 07:21 PM
I could also pull off any shows that I wanted to archive and put them on a drive on one of my computers. I assume that once I pull a show off of a TiVo onto a regular computer, that I can't get it back on to the TiVo from the TiVo -- I would have to do it from the PC correct?
Pulling a show off the tivo onto a PC (or another Tivo for that matter) actually copies the file not move it. Putting content back on the tivo from a pc can be done with tivo server.

MurrayW
03-28-2006, 07:21 PM
you can use one of the SD tivo's with 6.2 sw as a "source" and then just MFS the image on the new drives...you can do this with a MFS tools Boot CD, which you can get free on TCF, or if you have purchased the LBA48 boot disk, it includes a copy of MFS Tools....

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Gunny and Rbautch RULE!!!
And MATT1981M rules also in my book! :)
Thanks for all the help. I guess it is time for me to get going on this and quit asking all these questions.

dishdudes
03-28-2006, 07:29 PM
I think I screwed up my author file, not sure how but I must have. I have no telnet, ftp, or web, but I can ping.. What are my options? Any directions on how to get back into the drive?

MATT1981M
03-28-2006, 07:35 PM
gunny... i have a question for you...

if you do a direct backup of an original tivo using the command below from an original 40GB drive to a 250GB drive. is there any way to expand the partitions so they fit the entire drive??? if so, how....


the command i was referring to was...
dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb bs=1024k

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 07:36 PM
if you haven't rebooted, try tomorrow to access the unit via tivoweb. TWP restarts every night with cron.
If you've rebooted you either need a serial cable or to pull the drive and rehack

dishdudes
03-28-2006, 07:42 PM
Ok I ordered serial cable today just to have one..

Yeah I rebooted.. No go..

So once i get the serial cable I just go in with hyperterm and I can correct the file or manually fire up ftp to put a good file in there?

BTW if TWP does fire up what does it buy me? can I edit the author file in there? What time does it start?

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 07:53 PM
I believe it starts at 3 am
if you have hackman installed you can start telnet from there with the "enter a command here" box
if you have rebooted and your author file has been hosed you will need to pull the drive because serial bash is started from the author file as well.

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 07:55 PM
gunny... i have a question for you...

if you do a direct backup of an original tivo using the command below from an original 40GB drive to a 250GB drive. is there any way to expand the partitions so they fit the entire drive??? if so, how....


the command i was referring to was...
nope
you can DD then mfsadd I THINK.
I always did a piped mfsbackup |mfsrestore
much easier imho

Phe0nix
03-28-2006, 07:56 PM
many routers have the option to "clone" mac addresses... for instance my WRT54G Linksys has this option... get one that does and all can be on the same subnet... problem solved.


Would you beleive it i have the Linksys WRT54GS router running FW 3.37.6 current on the phone with support

bbl...

Luv2DrvFst
03-28-2006, 07:58 PM
Lately, my box has been very slow to give me a bash prompt in a telnet session and also really slow to echo characters when I type something in. By slow I mean it might be 10-15 seconds before what I type echoes on the screen. Usually after a reboot it's fine. Any ideas what might be slowing it down?

dishdudes
03-28-2006, 07:59 PM
i was thinking that... but if the twp fires up and i can start telnet, i can get in that way right???

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 07:59 PM
i was thinking that... but if the twp fires up and i can start telnet, i can get in that way right???
yes

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 08:00 PM
Lately, my box has been very slow to give me a bash prompt in a telnet session and also really slow to echo characters when I type something in. By slow I mean it might be 10-15 seconds before what I type echoes on the screen. Usually after a reboot it's fine. Any ideas what might be slowing it down?
What all is starting in your author file?

Luv2DrvFst
03-28-2006, 08:03 PM
What all is starting in your author file?
Nothing fancy... telnet, ftp, bash, endpadplus, twp, crond.

dishdudes
03-28-2006, 08:03 PM
Cool, I'll wait til tomorrow and see if it fires up.. If not do I just re-zipper with a PC?

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 08:04 PM
Nothing fancy... telnet, ftp, bash, endpadplus, twp, crond.
when you telnet in are you leaving processes running like vserver tserver or anything?

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 08:05 PM
Cool, I'll wait til tomorrow and see if it fires up.. If not do I just re-zipper with a PC?
correct

Luv2DrvFst
03-28-2006, 08:09 PM
when you telnet in are you leaving processes running like vserver tserver or anything?
Nope. Whenever I use vserver I just run it from a telnet session and then kill it when I'm done (^C).

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 08:10 PM
then your tivo thinks it's windows 98 and just needs a reboot now and then :confused:

2500
03-28-2006, 08:11 PM
glad to hear it :)
You are certainly NOT an ID10T :)

Thanks Gunny and thanks for all the help on my issue everybody.

Luv2DrvFst
03-28-2006, 08:12 PM
then your tivo thinks it's windows 98 and just needs a reboot now and then :confused:
LOL... you might be right. I think it is somehow related to TWP but not sure how. I guess I need to pay close attention over the next few days and see if I can find a pattern that starts the slowdown.

dishdudes
03-28-2006, 08:19 PM
correct

Will I lose recordings and season passes?

JWThiers
03-28-2006, 08:20 PM
then your tivo thinks it's windows 98 and just needs a reboot now and then :confused:
It could be worse, it could think it was Millenium Edition and chock anytime anyone looks at it funny. :D

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 08:24 PM
Will I lose recordings and season passes?
no
just don't restore an image

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 08:25 PM
It could be worse, it could think it was Millenium Edition and chock anytime anyone looks at it funny. :D

ok I don't care who you are that's funny.

mulscully
03-28-2006, 09:28 PM
The USB200MV2 must be added to the file in the
/etc/hotplug/usb.map
Jamie's backported drivers must be installed first. (You must have answered yes to adding the USB2.0 drivers in the Zipper enhancemant script)

Find the section for the ax8817x driver and edit the file to add the product line for the USB200MV2
device ax8817x
product 13b1 0018 Linksys USB200MV2

did this but still no workey as a matter of fact my ver 1 stopped working now also...

kbsmoka
03-28-2006, 09:56 PM
First off I want to thank you for putting together a package that works so well, after a couple failed attempts the "Zipper" worked like magic, first time. Im going to get the network side going soon.

I have just one question, sorry if i post this is the wrong spot.....I need to get my old recordings off the original drive, what is the easiest way to accomplish this? I read a lot of info on this and it looks like you have to make a full backup of the orginal and restore it. Is there a way to get just the recordings and not the whole drive and if I do have to backup the whole drive will restoring it ruin the image I have now??

I am going to continue to read how to his but i just wanted to see if anyone had any quick suggestions....Thanks in advance.

KB

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 09:59 PM
mfsbackup|mfsrestore from original to larger drive then zipper larger drive.

MurrayW
03-28-2006, 11:37 PM
Question 1: Do I need to activate the units before hacking them?
no
Question 3: I am assuming that I need 1 more for the 3 non-HD DirecTivo's and that I can use the same CD for the Philips and Hughes DirecTivos, correct?
you can and if these units already have 6.2 you don't HAVE to buy an image at all

....


I just hooked all 3 SD DirecTiVo's up and they all have 3.1.1e software. Since I will be activating 2 of these 3 eventually, can't I just activate one of them now, let the software update in the next couple of days to 6.2 and thus not need to buy another image?

thanks,
Murray

Gunnyman
03-28-2006, 11:37 PM
yes

shn2006
03-29-2006, 12:53 AM
yes look at weaknees guide in the upgarde forum I think its teh 1st or second sticky


Quick question for anyone out there...
Once I do the hard drive swap using this wekness tool can I simply to a killhdinitrd on the kernel of the new drive and use it with zipper CD that I need to create or do I need to buy the kernel CD anyway?
Thanks...

6stringbass
03-29-2006, 02:30 AM
OK, you guys are kind of scaring me out of the 2 drive setup. I guess if they are all networked, and I can access the files on any of the 3 SD DirecTiVo's that would give me 750 GB of space (each would have a 250 GB drive).


Until recently I had a two drive SD-DVR40. Two 40 gig drives. I didn't make any changes to the case and added the second drive with custom drive mounting rails (read kludged but solid). I had no stability or overheating problems. I've Zippered the setup and it works great. I'm changing to a single 250 gig drive (thanks Micro Center!) to gain space and recover the 40's for another project. With an estimated 224 hours of recording time I should be good for a while (especially with another 250gig DTivo networked to it) but I also thought I'd never outgrow 80 gig. You live and learn. Don't fear two drive setups but if one will do then keep things simple. You can always add a second honkin big drive later if you really need space.

YMMV!

bengalfreak
03-29-2006, 05:55 AM
Weaknees claims their bracket and fan setup for multiple drives runs cooler than a stock single drive system.

dishdudes
03-29-2006, 07:22 AM
no
just don't restore an image

Well TWP did launch overnight. :( Isn't there a night where the unit reboots? Maybe I should wait a night or 2? Also it was just installed maybe DirecTV put some guide data on it and it reset??

Anyway have you ever pulled the drive, booted on a Knoppix image and hooked the drive up via a USB to IDE converter? I should be able to edit the author file then?

Thoughts?

Gunnyman
03-29-2006, 07:33 AM
if the unit has rebooted and as I suspect your author file is hosed, cron isn't running anymore anyway and you will have to pull the drive. As for the knoppix solution I have no idea but since the tivo root file system is ext2 that should work.

mulscully
03-29-2006, 07:56 AM
USB200MV2 problem

I was foolish enough to download the usb.map file to my computer and edit it in crimson editor and reupload.. although I did dl and upload as ascii, it still added a bunch of ctrl-M to the end of the lines, Once I deleted them. it now works

pendragn
03-29-2006, 07:58 AM
if the unit has rebooted and as I suspect your author file is hosed, cron isn't running anymore anyway and you will have to pull the drive. As for the knoppix solution I have no idea but since the tivo root file system is ext2 that should work.
The TiVo also uses the Apple partition structure, so not all Linux installations will see it. I have no idea if Knoppix has support for that or not.

tk

Gunnyman
03-29-2006, 07:59 AM
good point Todd.
there's some kernel patching you will need to do to get knoppix to see the HD I forgot about that.

dishdudes
03-29-2006, 08:12 AM
good point Todd.
there's some kernel patching you will need to do to get knoppix to see the HD I forgot about that.

Well I'll give it a shot and report back the outcome. Worse case I'll go back to the PTV boot disc. Can I just boot up on that, mount the drive and run zipper since zipper is already on the drive?

Gunnyman
03-29-2006, 08:17 AM
use the zipper tools cd to run the zipper then telnet in to do the rest just like you did the 1st time

RxMan
03-29-2006, 09:45 AM
OK. I am trying to get my USB ports running. I did the uninstall and everything went fine, it restored the old USB drivers. When I run tweak.sh, it tries to connect to the internet to download the latest enhancements script. At this point my HD-Tivo is not connected. How do I proceed?

Gunnyman
03-29-2006, 09:48 AM
copy rbautch_files.tgz from the zipper tools cd to the tivo to the same directory as tweak.sh and re-run it.

RxMan
03-29-2006, 10:13 AM
OK. I did that and re-ran tweak.sh. It didn't ask me to enter any IP Address like last time. Did I do something wrong yet again?

Gunnyman
03-29-2006, 10:19 AM
nope
tweak.sh doesn't do that

RxMan
03-29-2006, 10:21 AM
HD-Tivo rebooted still no lights on USB.

RxMan
03-29-2006, 10:22 AM
Is there something that does that? I just can't believe that this adapter was working fine with my other HD-Tivo, but all of the sudden won't work with is one.

RxMan
03-29-2006, 10:27 AM
So the original Zipper run with drive in the computer set all of this stuff? Is there a way I can determine what the IP of my Tivo is? ifconfig didn't show much.

Gunnyman
03-29-2006, 10:35 AM
the other hdtivo had drivers added to it correct?
I bet the stock 3.xx install doesn't have those drivers. Thankfully Netgear FA120 is cheap.

shn2006
03-29-2006, 11:31 AM
Quick question for anyone out there...
Once I do the hard drive swap using this wekness tool can I simply to a killhdinitrd on the kernel of the new drive and use it with zipper CD that I need to create or do I need to buy the kernel CD anyway?
Thanks...


just a bump - i think this got buried.... sorry about this Gunnyman.. when I posted this it was very late last night so I didn't addrss it to you...

Gunnyman
03-29-2006, 11:57 AM
you can certainly killhdinitrd manually, but since you are gonna need a boot disk anyway, might as well spend the 5 bucks and get the kernel and the boot cd.

shn2006
03-29-2006, 12:09 PM
you can certainly killhdinitrd manually, but since you are gonna need a boot disk anyway, might as well spend the 5 bucks and get the kernel and the boot cd.
Thanks.... will do that... just out of curiocity though.. if one were to do Killhdinitrd on stock kernel, are there any other patches that need to be done on top of it? And would the weakness boot CD have worked? Once again.. I am just curious and am knda amazed by the vastness of the Tivo hacking activities being done.... just plain amazed...

Gunnyman
03-29-2006, 12:16 PM
well the lba48 cd from ptv is LBA48 aware so big HD's will work I dunno if the weaknees one is
other than that, the only difference is the "killed" kernels.
The way the zipper is set up, if it doesn't FIND the kernel on your tools cd it will halt.

MurrayW
03-29-2006, 01:56 PM
If I use one of my hacked DirecTiVo's as a MRV only (don't activate it), will I still be able to record local OTA programs on it or does it need to be activated to enable the TiVo service?

And if it can NOT record OTA shows, is there any point in installing a large drive in it since it will only be accessing files that were recorded on other fully activated DirecTiVo's?

thanks,
Murray

Gunnyman
03-29-2006, 02:08 PM
an unsubbed HDTivo won't record OTA and an SD tivo wont do it at all.

MurrayW
03-29-2006, 02:24 PM
an unsubbed HDTivo won't record OTA and an SD tivo wont do it at all.
Gunnyman thanks again for the quick response. So to watch a program on an unsubbed TiVo, it just copies the file from another TiVo on the network onto it's hard drive. So would the only reason to have a large hard drive on an unsubbed unit be for archiving shows? Do I have this right, I could copy from a subbed TiVo then delete the show from the subbed TiVo to make more room for other recordings?

That will be all my questions for today...I don't want to distrurb your nap again today! :D

thanks,
Murray

mtxguy74
03-29-2006, 02:27 PM
Thanks to everyone here especially gunny and rbautch for making my install of a new 200GB drive and the requisite "enhancements" go so smoothly. This was one of the easiest hacks I have ever performed. Kudos to you guys for all of your hard work.

My question is this:

I installed with a wireless adapter, what is the easiest way to switch to a wired adapter? I thought I would deal with the slow transfers, but it is killing me. Please let me know the best way to proceed.

Thanks in advance for your help.

pendragn
03-29-2006, 02:34 PM
I installed with a wireless adapter, what is the easiest way to switch to a wired adapter? I thought I would deal with the slow transfers, but it is killing me. Please let me know the best way to proceed.

Thanks in advance for your help.
I've never used wireless, so I'm just guessing, but...

I would try just hooking the wired adapter up and give it a go. All the drivers are there, so there's a good chance it'll just pop up on your network.

tk

SteelersFan
03-29-2006, 02:51 PM
Gunnyman thanks again for the quick response. So to watch a program on an unsubbed TiVo, it just copies the file from another TiVo on the network onto it's hard drive. So would the only reason to have a large hard drive on an unsubbed unit be for archiving shows? Do I have this right, I could copy from a subbed TiVo then delete the show from the subbed TiVo to make more room for other recordings?

That will be all my questions for today...I don't want to distrurb your nap again today! :D

thanks,
Murray
Yes, yes, and yes. I have 5 boxes. Only 2 are subbed (the larger ones) and are used to record shows for all 5. :up:

TomK
03-29-2006, 02:54 PM
Gunnyman thanks again for the quick response. So to watch a program on an unsubbed TiVo, it just copies the file from another TiVo on the network onto it's hard drive. So would the only reason to have a large hard drive on an unsubbed unit be for archiving shows? Do I have this right, I could copy from a subbed TiVo then delete the show from the subbed TiVo to make more room for other recordings?

That will be all my questions for today...I don't want to distrurb your nap again today! :D

thanks,
Murray


I'll try to answer this one. Yes, an unsubbed DirecTiVo copies the show from the subbed DirecTiVo. The recording light comes on and all that. I have three DirecTiVos that are all subbed but one of them has a bigger drive and I use it for 'storage'. I then delete the shows off the smaller disk DirecTiVos.


edit: Beaten by SteelersFan

titleistmd
03-29-2006, 04:42 PM
I've never used wireless, so I'm just guessing, but...

I would try just hooking the wired adapter up and give it a go. All the drivers are there, so there's a good chance it'll just pop up on your network.

tk
pendragn and mtxguy74

I'm by no means an expert, but pendragn answered the same question for me when I set my zippered tivos up. I ran the zipper to use a wireless network. However, if you change over to a wired network it still works. No settings to change, nothing. I'm using the netgear FA 120 usb to ethernet adapter. When I use wireless I use an old microsoft 510 unit. I can even leave them both plugged in and they both work. There is a network script in the enhancements directory that you can rerun if you really want to change it, but I never have because it works without any changes. You just need to use the same ip address and router address as initially set up in the zipper. I hope that helps

metalo420
03-29-2006, 04:56 PM
Hi guys,
Pretty new to whole tivo. I have purchased a Tivo Series 2 model TCD140060, will the Zipper work on that model?

Gunnyman
03-29-2006, 05:03 PM
Nope

dishdudes
03-29-2006, 08:59 PM
no
just don't restore an image

I ended up booting off the PTV disk, mounted the tivo partition and chmodding the rc.sysinit.author file, hooked it up and all was well. Lesson learned don't used windows and FTP to edit your files.

Thanks Gunny for all your help. BTW the KNOPPIX disc wouldnt even pick up on the tivo drive.

rbautch
03-29-2006, 09:26 PM
pendragn and mtxguy74

I'm by no means an expert, but pendragn answered the same question for me when I set my zippered tivos up. I ran the zipper to use a wireless network. However, if you change over to a wired network it still works. No settings to change, nothing. I'm using the netgear FA 120 usb to ethernet adapter. When I use wireless I use an old microsoft 510 unit. I can even leave them both plugged in and they both work. There is a network script in the enhancements directory that you can rerun if you really want to change it, but I never have because it works without any changes. You just need to use the same ip address and router address as initially set up in the zipper. I hope that helps It works one way, but not the other. If you start out wired, and then want to go wireless, you have to run the network script or use the TWP module.

rbautch
03-29-2006, 09:29 PM
So the original Zipper run with drive in the computer set all of this stuff? Is there a way I can determine what the IP of my Tivo is? ifconfig didn't show much.Run the script called /enhancements/net-status.tcl

kbsmoka
03-29-2006, 09:38 PM
mfsbackup|mfsrestore from original to larger drive then zipper larger drive.


Gunnyman, thanks for the help.....Here's what I got. Put both drives in my PC, ran this command:

mfsbackup -1qso - /dev/hdb | mfsrestore -i - /dev/hda

then ran this to get the videos:

mfsbackup -aqo - /dev/hdb | mfsrestore -xpi - /dev/hda
(bet i went wrong somewhere here)

Ran Zipper, its up and running but i have no local channels and when i go into the menu to look at the videos i copied it says I have a hardware problem which needs my attention. Please reboot, did that a couple times but same thing.....Any ideas?

Thanks Again
KB

Adam1115
03-29-2006, 09:40 PM
I'll try to answer this one. Yes, an unsubbed DirecTiVo copies the show from the subbed DirecTiVo. The recording light comes on and all that. I have three DirecTiVos that are all subbed but one of them has a bigger drive and I use it for 'storage'. I then delete the shows off the smaller disk DirecTiVos.


edit: Beaten by SteelersFan

Uhm, now how is hacking your DirecTV to record without a subscription NOT considered theft of service?

pendragn
03-29-2006, 09:42 PM
Uhm, now how is hacking your DirecTV to record without a subscription NOT considered theft of service?
We all understand your views on the topic now.

This discussion is better suited for a different thread. This thread is a support thread.

tk

Gunnyman
03-29-2006, 10:02 PM
why do I get the feeling adam has a pansat FTA and couldn't get help hacking his tivo to control it

Gunnyman
03-29-2006, 10:05 PM
Gunnyman, thanks for the help.....Here's what I got. Put both drives in my PC, ran this command:

mfsbackup -1qso - /dev/hdb | mfsrestore -i - /dev/hda

then ran this to get the videos:

mfsbackup -aqo - /dev/hdb | mfsrestore -xpi - /dev/hda
(bet i went wrong somewhere here)

Ran Zipper, its up and running but i have no local channels and when i go into the menu to look at the videos i copied it says I have a hardware problem which needs my attention. Please reboot, did that a couple times but same thing.....Any ideas?

Thanks Again
KB

yes read the troubleshooting section of the wiki linked in my sig

kbsmoka
03-29-2006, 10:14 PM
Got the locals back, thanks again!!!!!

I still cant access the now playing menu, tells me i have a hardware problem and to reboot.....Im going to try another reboot now.

KB

MATT1981M
03-29-2006, 10:50 PM
Uhm, now how is hacking your DirecTV to record without a subscription NOT considered theft of service?
no offense to those out there with a brain and who are not stealing anything but... adam you are an idiot. they are not hacking their directv to record without a subscription. they are archiving recordings that were recorded on units THEY PAY A SUBSCRIPTION FOR!!!!!! and plus, if you want to get technical, their DVR service fee covers any tivos they have in their residence.

the only reason they pay 5 more a month per receiver is so they can watch live tv with that receiver. so by doing what they currently are doing, archiving content previously purchased legally (i.e. Monthly service fees and addtl receiver fees), they can transfer said content to any medium they deem fit.

The only provision is that they only use such content they transfer for backup reasons and the copies are kept for personal use. I apologize to those who are reading through this forum trying to upgrade their tivo's because all this idiot is doing is cluttering this forum and now i am adding to the clutter.

I believe the reason that DTV did not include HMO and MRV with the Series 2 DTivo's was that they didnt want to support it. Coming from my experience working in the Cell Phone industry, you NEVER release anything unless you can be sure you can cover all applications because all you will do is piss off the consumer because you cant fix what wasnt your fault, and what you had no control over in the first place.

There is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with what the people on this forum are doing. They are helping those who are less technically inclined hone their skills. They are doing a service to the community, helping those of us who are more squeamish when it comes to working with an OS we are not proficient in. They are providing the community a way to do this legally. What people do with this knowledge is their own business. Don't trash these people. They put in ALOT of hard work so we would have an easier time upgrading and networking our dtivos.

Gunnyman
03-29-2006, 11:15 PM
Got the locals back, thanks again!!!!!

I still cant access the now playing menu, tells me i have a hardware problem and to reboot.....Im going to try another reboot now.

KB
is it error 51?
run 51killer.tcl from bash

kbsmoka
03-29-2006, 11:40 PM
Doesnt say error 51 anywhere like others have reported. It all works fine except whenever i try to access the now playing list i get a screen that says:

A hardware problem has been detected which needs you attention. Until the problem is fixed you will not be able to record programs or watch recordings.

Please reset the recorder either by unplugging it or going to the menu bla bla bla......

Gotta wait to try the fix until i get my network adapter.

KB

MATT1981M
03-29-2006, 11:42 PM
Doesnt say error 51 anywhere like others have reported. It all works fine except whenever i try to access the now playing list i get a screen that says:

A hardware problem has been detected which needs you attention. Until the problem is fixed you will not be able to record programs or watch recordings.

Please reset the recorder either by unplugging it or going to the menu bla bla bla......

Gotta wait to try the fix until i get my network adapter.

KB

reboot with the serial cable plugged in and try to capture the info into a text file and post the file so gunny can look at it....

MATT1981M
03-30-2006, 04:23 AM
i was modifying the rc.sysinit file and made a boo boo..... i was testing something i saw on another site and forgot one command before rebooting... i kept loosing the ability to send commands via serial ppp telnet and i would have to re-zip to get it back... so i was trying to see if it was something loading in the rc.sysinit file... i renamed the active rc.sysinit file to rc.sysinit.real and created a new file called rc.sysinit.monte that had some basic commands i wanted to try. then i deleted the remaining rc.sysinit file and created a symlink named rc.sysinit that would direct to rc.sysinit.monte. i then rebooted before making the rc.sysinit.monte executable.....now the tivo reboots sees that the rc.sysinit is not valid and stalls..... how can i boot using the ptv lba48 boot cd and mount the drive itself and run the chmod 777 command to make the rc.sysinit.real an executable file....is this possible or am i completely fubar'ed.....

MATT1981M
03-30-2006, 06:16 AM
yeah i fixed it!!!!!

i had to use metapad to edit the zipper.sh script....
under the COPY HACKS AND SETTINGS section of the script i just added the following lines at the top before echo "Copying tivotools to busybox..."
echo "FIXING WHAT I FUBAR'ED..."
rm -f /tivo/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit
cp /cdrom/rc.sysinit /tivo/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit
chmod 755 /tivo/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit &>/tivo/dev/nullat the top before echo "Copying tivotools to busybox..."
it took me about 2.5 hrs and about 8 variations of the script before i got it to work.... now it is time to see if i can do what i was trying to do in the first place.... after all if i fubar it again, i now have a handy dandy script to correct it...lol.... plus i just made a backup to a spare drive so i dont have any more heart attacks tonight...or this morning...after all it is 516 am....

Gunnyman
03-30-2006, 07:21 AM
Doesnt say error 51 anywhere like others have reported. It all works fine except whenever i try to access the now playing list i get a screen that says:

A hardware problem has been detected which needs you attention. Until the problem is fixed you will not be able to record programs or watch recordings.

Please reset the recorder either by unplugging it or going to the menu bla bla bla......

Gotta wait to try the fix until i get my network adapter.

KB
yep that's error 51

kbsmoka
03-30-2006, 10:01 AM
is it error 51?
run 51killer.tcl from bash

Can I run this with the drive in my PC or should I wait for the network adapter?

KB

Gunnyman
03-30-2006, 10:15 AM
must be run on the tivo from BASH

JWThiers
03-30-2006, 10:32 AM
must be run on the tivo from BASH
Either on ethernet or serial.

kbsmoka
03-30-2006, 10:41 AM
Ok, I'll wait for the adapter to get here.....Hopefully I dont have any problems getting that up and running.....Thanks for the help guys.

KB

JWThiers
03-30-2006, 10:53 AM
Just to be on the safe side I would go to tivo.com and order a serial cable. Or if you can use the serial cable from a Philips pronto if you have one. I misconfigured wep last week and could not access via wireless. Serial saved me the hassle of pulling the drive and starting over.

Philly Bill
03-30-2006, 10:57 AM
Since you can't have MRV with an HDTIVO, what does using the Zipper on it buy me?

I thought I'd network my other two TIVOs, but now I find all I do is watch the HDTIVO...

I guess I don't need these two FA120's I bought... lol.

Adam1115
03-30-2006, 12:28 PM
why do I get the feeling adam has a pansat FTA and couldn't get help hacking his tivo to control it

A Pansat what? I have DirecTV, an HR10-250, and two hacked SD-DVR40's with MRV...

I don't have any problem with it, I was just curious why it's allowed here after I read the rules thats all...

rbautch
03-30-2006, 01:15 PM
Since you can't have MRV with an HDTIVO, what does using the Zipper on it buy me?

I thought I'd network my other two TIVOs, but now I find all I do is watch the HDTIVO...

I guess I don't need these two FA120's I bought... lol.
You can still do a "poor mans mrv" using mfs_ftp to extract and insert. It also gives you permanent 30-sec skip, and enables backdoors which will allow you to see the resolution of each HD broadcast you watch/record. I put my HR10-250 right on top of a DSR7000 and use them both in tandem. I can't believe how crappy regular definition shows look on my new Sony 60" LCOS. They're almost unwatchable. Even the off-air shows look 10 times better.

MurrayW
03-30-2006, 01:29 PM
You can still do a "poor mans mrv" using mfs_ftp to extract and insert. It also gives you permanent 30-sec skip, and enables backdoors which will allow you to see the resolution of each HD broadcast you watch/record. I put my HR10-250 right on top of a DSR7000 and use them both in tandem. I can't believe how crappy regular definition shows look on my new Sony 60" LCOS. They're almost unwatchable. Even the off-air shows look 10 times better.
rbautch,
Can you give a brief step-by-step or point me to a thread that explains the "poor mans mrv".

I am assuming that this means you have to manually extract the files and insert them on another TiVo, doing all this from a computer vs. being able to just "see" the files from another TiVo -- is this correct?

thanks,
Murray

tall1
03-30-2006, 01:38 PM
will allow you to see the resolution of each HD broadcast you watch/record. Which backdoor code allows you to see the resolution?

videoaddict
03-30-2006, 01:49 PM
where can I find out what zipper is and what it does and how to install
videoaddict

MATT1981M
03-30-2006, 02:02 PM
where can I find out what zipper is and what it does and how to install
videoaddict
go to pg 1 of this thread... it is linked from post #1.... check out the zipper wiki... to find that just look at any one of gunny's posts...the link is in his sig.... there is a pg there that tells you what it does.... and trust me..... it is SOOO EASY!!!!!!! the only problems i have had are because of my curiosity and i start playing around with stuff i shouldnt be..... :D

JWThiers
03-30-2006, 05:34 PM
I just Replaced my OLD linksys B only router (no WPA to give an idea of how old) with a belkin 7231. since I did that I have not been able to access my tivos wirelessly.

I have tried everything I can think of setSSIDwep.tcl wep off, wep on, DHCP on/off
rezippered 1 drive kept shows and did not reimage ( would like to keep shows if I can).

router is setup with ssid broadcast on, wireless on, mode is 54G auto (B and G mode).

Any ideas.

DavePurz
03-30-2006, 05:41 PM
Thanks Gunny and Rbautch!

I've been hounding DirecTV since before 6.2's deployment about enabling HMO and MRV.

Because of their excuses and inaction, I "zippered" my four (4) Samsung SIR-S4120R units last week and have been THRILLED with the results!

The enhancements also permanently enable 30-second skip (YEA!)

I have a request for possible future enhancment (or setup options)...

Is it possible to also optionally enable the "Enhanced" Now Playing List -- The one you see when you go to the NPL and enter: Thumbs Up - Thumbs Down - Thumbs Up - 7 - 8.

optionally "Quick Scroll Bar Disappear" (Select - Play - Select - Pause - Select)

and "On-Screen Clock" (Select - Play - Select - 9 - Select)?

I ask because we have to re-enable these features after every reboot.

The last two can be done via Hackman but Hackman wipes-out the .author file, breaking other features.

Thanks!

rbautch
03-30-2006, 06:12 PM
rbautch,
Can you give a brief step-by-step or point me to a thread that explains the "poor mans mrv".

I am assuming that this means you have to manually extract the files and insert them on another TiVo, doing all this from a computer vs. being able to just "see" the files from another TiVo -- is this correct?

thanks,
Murray
Correct. Can't talk about extract here. Search for it on DDB.

rbautch
03-30-2006, 06:13 PM
Which backdoor code allows you to see the resolution?I saw it somewhere in the HD Tivo forum here on TCF. Don't know off hand.

rbautch
03-30-2006, 06:16 PM
Thanks Gunny and Rbautch!

I've been hounding DirecTV since before 6.2's deployment about enabling HMO and MRV.

Because of their excuses and inaction, I "zippered" my four (4) Samsung SIR-S4120R units last week and have been THRILLED with the results!

The enhancements also permanently enable 30-second skip (YEA!)

I have a request for possible future enhancment (or setup options)...

Is it possible to also optionally enable the "Enhanced" Now Playing List -- The one you see when you go to the NPL and enter: Thumbs Up - Thumbs Down - Thumbs Up - 7 - 8.

optionally "Quick Scroll Bar Disappear" (Select - Play - Select - Pause - Select)

and "On-Screen Clock" (Select - Play - Select - 9 - Select)?

I ask because we have to re-enable these features after every reboot.

The last two can be done via Hackman but Hackman wipes-out the .author file, breaking other features.

Thanks!
Great ideas for improvements, but those are going to be difficult to implement since the sendkey utility does not work with 6.2. I could probably implement these for HR10-250's though. I'll check into it.

Luv2DrvFst
03-30-2006, 07:41 PM
The last two can be done via Hackman but Hackman wipes-out the .author file, breaking other features.

Hackman wipes out the author file? :eek: How so?

TivoFamily
03-30-2006, 09:18 PM
I used Nero 7 to burn my tools CD. I know I am supposed to burn it in Joliet mode. I could only find an option for ISO 9660 + Joliet. How can I tell if I did it right? Thanks for the help.

JWThiers
03-30-2006, 10:44 PM
I used Nero 7 to burn my tools CD. I know I am supposed to burn it in Joliet mode. I could only find an option for ISO 9660 + Joliet. How can I tell if I did it right? Thanks for the help.
Mine worked fine that way.

JWThiers
03-30-2006, 10:50 PM
I just Replaced my OLD linksys B only router (no WPA to give an idea of how old) with a belkin 7231. since I did that I have not been able to access my tivos wirelessly.

I have tried everything I can think of setSSIDwep.tcl wep off, wep on, DHCP on/off
rezippered 1 drive kept shows and did not reimage ( would like to keep shows if I can).

router is setup with ssid broadcast on, wireless on, mode is 54G auto (B and G mode).

Any ideas.
OK I got it working again. Had to change a setting on my router. Changed "Wireless Mode" to "54G LRS". The manual said NOT To unless you had a specific need for it. Go Figure. Now I just have to get my port forwarding set right again for remote access.

MATT1981M
03-31-2006, 01:08 AM
I used Nero 7 to burn my tools CD. I know I am supposed to burn it in Joliet mode. I could only find an option for ISO 9660 + Joliet. How can I tell if I did it right? Thanks for the help.
mine also worked that way....

MATT1981M
03-31-2006, 01:12 AM
Hackman wipes out the author file? :eek: How so?
ill tell ya what... i have hackman on mine... i will look at the rc.sysinit.author file on the tivo and the tools cd i created and see what it between the two...... we will get to the bottom of this.... the only thing i need is for someone to look at the script below and tell me why it is not working.... i made it so i could monte to a diff kernel to test something.....

#!/bin/bash
export PATH=/sbin:/bin:/tivobin:/tvbin:.:/:/etc/rc.d
export TERM=xterm
export PS1='\h:\w$ '
/bin/bash</dev/ttyS2&>/dev/ttyS2&
bootparm=`/sbin/bootpage -p /dev/hda`
if [ "$sp" != "true" ]; then
echo "sp=\"$sp\" must be first pass, trying to run monte"
/sbin/insmod -f /monte/kmonte.o
/monte/monte /monte/vmlinux.px.3.1.5x "$bootparm sp=true"
else
echo "sp=\"$sp\" must be second pass"
exec /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit.real
fi
echo "monte sysinit wrapper complete, you're on your own"

dishdudes
03-31-2006, 05:15 PM
Hey gunny searched a little but not coming up with anything. Can I take a drive out of a zippered Series 2 tivo and put it in another one? Ame model, different model etc?

pendragn
03-31-2006, 05:17 PM
Hey gunny searched a little but not coming up with anything. Can I take a drive out of a zippered Series 2 tivo and put it in another one? Ame model, different model etc?
I'm not Gunny, but I'll take a stab at this.

Yes, you can do this if it's been Zippered. You'll have to run 51killer.tcl on the TiVo if you get "Error 51" errors when you try to watch stuff on the new box.

tk

dishdudes
03-31-2006, 06:47 PM
Thanks.. So as long as its series 2 models don't matter. IE I can put a DSR 704 drive in a DVR40?

pendragn
03-31-2006, 06:53 PM
If they are both S2 DTiVos you should be fine.

tk

BBQ-AllStar
03-31-2006, 07:37 PM
I have a question...

I bought/downloaded the ptvlba48-4.02DD.iso from PTUpgrade and noticed that in the S2 kernel folder under 3.1.5, the vmlinux file that I need for my Zipper CD is named "vmlinux.px.gz". Is this the same file as VMLINUX_.GZ -- and if so, I need to change it to the correct file name...correct?

I just tried to Zipper a TiVo using the disc I made and ran into I/O errors and that the VMLINUX_.GZ file could not found.

TIA

ttodd1
03-31-2006, 08:01 PM
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=3380760&&#post3380760

BBQ-AllStar
03-31-2006, 08:13 PM
darnit!

Thanks...I did a search for "vmlinux.px.gz" and couldn't find anything...maybe I spelled it wrong...anyways, sorry for the post...

***However, I am still getting Input/output errors when copying data from Zipper disc to Tivo HD. Is my CD-Rom failing? This is an old PC that a friend loaned me...I've noticed that copying small files is no problem or loading the ptvlba disc...but once I try to copy the image over from the Zipper disc it says "Restore failed: /cdrom/000001: Input/Output error.

Since the Tivo already has an image on it...I skipped the image loading part and went straight to applying the hacks...it seemed to work fine for a little while than got Input/Output errors...

I burned 3 discs and all had the same problem...I also used compressed air to clean the cdrom in case dust/lint was the problem...still no go...

Any advice?


***UPDATE*** I think it was the cdrom...I took an old external cdrom and hooked it up to the PC and everything seems to be working...

JWThiers
03-31-2006, 08:34 PM
I am having a problem transfering programs from one D*Tivo to another. One unit I have done minimal enhancements to Stock drive, kept the content when zippering. The unit I am having problems with I put in a larger drive had done some more messing with made a few errors on and ended up reinstalling a fresh image and zippered ran fine for a day and then made some edits and rebooted to fix the slow NPL issue per the wiki (to both tivos). after half a day I then went to enable WEP (used wep-pad and setSSIDwep2 from the other forum) rebooted. Could access the tivo via TWP with WEP then went to dinner. Came back and went to transfer LOST to the prob tivo and after 45 minutes I only had about 25 minutes transfered. I then stopped the transfer and deleted. After this I tested my connection trying TWP, telnet, ftp, ping and get nothing. In order to get the networkrunning I have to restart the tivo.

Is This common with wireless? Any Ideasfor things to check?

rbautch
03-31-2006, 09:22 PM
Slow transfers like that aint right. I had a similar problem and it turned out to be one of my computers babbling on the network slowing things down. After rebooting, everything was fine. Try rebooting everything attached to your network. If all else fails, you can also try dd'ing the entire root filesystem from your good tivo to your bad tivo.

JWThiers
03-31-2006, 10:23 PM
Slow transfers like that aint right. I had a similar problem and it turned out to be one of my computers babbling on the network slowing things down. After rebooting, everything was fine. Try rebooting everything attached to your network. If all else fails, you can also try dd'ing the entire root filesystem from your good tivo to your bad tivo.
dd'ing the entire root filesystem from your good tivo to your bad tivo.

Huh???? :confused: :confused: :confused:

rbautch
03-31-2006, 11:00 PM
dd'ing the entire root filesystem from your good tivo to your bad tivo.

Huh???? :confused: :confused: :confused: Put both drives in a pc, boot with ptv (or other) boot CD, then type:

dd if=/dev/hda4 of=/dev/hdb4

This of course assumes your good drive is hda and your bad drive is installed in hdb, and that 4 (not 7) is the root filesystem. The will copy just the root filesystem, not shows, so your shows will remain in tact. When you boot up, you'll have to run net-launch.sh and setSSIDwep since the IP settings from the good tivo will have transferred over.

damnitjim
04-01-2006, 01:55 AM
hey
I want to add a drive to a zippered unit do I have to zipper the new one as well ?
and set jumpers ?

MATT1981M
04-01-2006, 04:11 AM
how can i get a copy of the 2.4.4-TiVo-3.0 kernel loaded on my DSR704.... i want be able to chainload from one kernel to another and the only one as far as i have heard that is stable is this one... i currently have the 2.4.20 kernel

JWThiers
04-01-2006, 07:20 AM
Put both drives in a pc, boot with ptv (or other) boot CD, then type:

dd if=/dev/hda4 of=/dev/hdb4

This of course assumes your good drive is hda and your bad drive is installed in hdb, and that 4 (not 7) is the root filesystem. The will copy just the root filesystem, not shows, so your shows will remain in tact. When you boot up, you'll have to run net-launch.sh and setSSIDwep since the IP settings from the good tivo will have transferred over.
Thanks for the info I might not have to do that. I did a little more troubleshooting and found that IF ALL other networked devices (1 laptop, 2 desktop) are OFF I can get transfers a little faster than realtime. I only stayed awake for about 40 minutes of a 1 hour show transfer and the last I checked about 45 minutes had transferred. I assume this is more normal than what I was getting. For completeness of info's sake I am using Netgear MA111 wifi adapters. I am thinking the best thing to do is get another wireless router and put the tivo's on their own network segment.

Gunnyman
04-01-2006, 08:13 AM
when I was wireless I almost never saw better than realtime transfer speed.

Luv2DrvFst
04-01-2006, 09:29 AM
when I was wireless I almost never saw better than realtime transfer speed.
Finishing up my ethernet wiring project this morning. Can't handle wireless anymore... although at times I was able to get transfer speeds of up to around 40 minutes for 60 minutes of content. (Using a wireless G bridge)

JWThiers
04-01-2006, 09:38 AM
when I was wireless I almost never saw better than realtime transfer speed.
When did you move away from wireless? I thought you were using a wireless bridge. Anyway as long as I can get at leasts realtime transfers consistantly I'll be happy. When you were using a bridge was it normal to get at least real time transfers? I don't need to get an hour show in 10 minutes but I do need it in at least 59 minutes (need to stay a little ahesd to prevent pauses). Does using a G bridge help with this or is wireless not quiite ready for prime time. I don't mind spending a little more money for the convience of no wires if it really works, but if not I am gonna have to start running wire now.

Gunnyman
04-01-2006, 09:40 AM
oh I was referring to wireless b.
I am on wireless g bridges and get PLENTY of speed now.
a 1 hr show mrv's in around 10 mins

JWThiers
04-01-2006, 09:43 AM
Finishing up my ethernet wiring project this morning. Can't handle wireless anymore... although at times I was able to get transfer speeds of up to around 40 minutes for 60 minutes of content. (Using a wireless G bridge)
Could you consistantly get real time or should I go out and get some ethernet cables, crimpers, and ethernet connectors and a couple of FA120's?

Luv2DrvFst
04-01-2006, 09:43 AM
oh I was referring to wireless b.
I am on wireless g bridges and get PLENTY of speed now.
a 1 hr show mrv's in around 10 mins
I could never even get close to those kinds of transfer times. TiVo is just too far away. Cost to boost the signal vs running cable sent me to the store for cable. I hope it speeds things up.

Luv2DrvFst
04-01-2006, 09:45 AM
Could you consistantly get real time or should I go out and get some ethernet cables, crimpers, and ethernet connectors and a couple of FA120's?
I was consistently better than 1:1. And could get to 35-40 mins for one hour.

JWThiers
04-01-2006, 09:45 AM
oh I was referring to wireless b.
I am on wireless g bridges and get PLENTY of speed now.
a 1 hr show mrv's in around 10 mins
Good news then thanks. That is what I am shooting for then. What equipment do you use? :up:

JWThiers
04-01-2006, 09:46 AM
I was consistently better than 1:1. And could get to 35-40 mins for one hour.
Thanks for the info.

Gunnyman
04-01-2006, 09:59 AM
My network setup is detailed in this thread
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=3372044&&#post3372044

drdick
04-01-2006, 11:27 AM
I have HUMAX 80 hr ... the TiVo channel guide has become very blurry (TV picture quality is fine) ... can you point me to a solution. Thanks much & good luck with the new publication. drdick

Phe0nix
04-01-2006, 12:18 PM
gotcha
sounds like you need a network expert and that ain't me.

Several days ago we were discussing why i wasn't able to get TWP to connect
via my IE browser. I was able to use IE to ftp and could telent as well as use various
Tivo applications to connect to my tivo. I was only able to get into TWP via IE on
PC's on the LAN side of my router.

Starband is my ISP and their modems use DHCP to assign my NIC their subnet of
255.255.192.0 and this isn't an option on my router that runs on subnet 255.255.255.0.

I called Linksys Tech support 3 days ago and i've been offlline ever since i listened to them.
They were never able to clone my NIC's MAC address to permit me to have controll
over the unusual subnet that Starband operates on. They blamed thier router as the source
of the problem rather than my ISP and were going to send me a replacement.

I went and purchased another router and called them back and they still couldn't get it working
and said that they hadn't ever encountered this before and would investigate it.
I write the following for anyone who uses Starband as thier ISP and wishes to run the Zipper on thier Tivo.

Deskop PC

NIC #1 :
connect to Starband modem
set TCP/IP to obtain automatically for both DNS and IP

NIC #2:

connect to WAN/Internet Port on router
static ip = 192.168.0.1
subnet = 255.255.255.0
Gateway = Leave blank

Lan PC's ( client PC's )

Obtain automaticaly or Static ( outside DHCP range )

Linksys router Configuration settings"

Internet setup:

Internet IP Address = 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask = 255.255.255.0
Gateway =192.168.0.1
Static DNS = current DNS servers

Network Setup :

Local IP Address =192.168.1.1
Subnet Mask =255.255.255.0
DHCP server Starting IP = your prefrence as well as range

Enable ICS on NIC connected to Starband modem selecting your second
NIC as the Private network to be shared with. In IE when you want to
view websites goto tools>internet options>connections>LAN settings
check mark both boxes for proxy server.
Select "advanced" and add 127.0.0.1 as proxy adddress and Port 9877.
And when you want to access your TWP while running 2 different
subnets simply remove the check marks for proxy server and your in.

To access your Tivo on a PC outside you home use an application called
TCP2HTTP: (http://ksc.mystarband.net/Networking/TCP2HTTP2.JPG)

select config and then click on add.

Listen Port = port your Tivo set up on
Destination = IP address of you Tivo
Port = same as you set for "listen port"
Check mark in box "Bypass" ( Don't use proxy server for this port )

JWThiers
04-01-2006, 12:50 PM
Several days ago we were discussing why i wasn't able to get TWP to connect
via my IE browser. I was able to use IE to ftp and could telent as well as use various
Tivo applications to connect to my tivo. I was only able to get into TWP via IE on
PC's on the LAN side of my router.
OK here you go. Go to www.dyndns.com and sign up for an account get the dynamic DNS service its free that will get you an address that will forward your calls to it to your actual external IP address assigned by your ISP. your external IP may change periodically so you have to check back from time to time to keep it up to date. Next you need to do some port forwarding on your router. Standard IP traffic uses port 80 what you want to do is pick a port (something over 1024 for technical reasons) I used port 8080 for my main tivo. Have your router set up to forward all traffic on that port to the IP address of your tivo. Then telnet into your tivo and edit the tivoweb.cfg file change the port listed to the port you selected save the changes and exit then reboot your tivo. After it reboots to access TWP from inside your network you will need add ":XXXX" where XXXX is the port you chose and without the quotes. for example if you chose port 2000 the you would enter tivo_IP:2000. To access from outside your network you would enter "Your_Dyn_DNS_Account_Name:2000" without quotes. DynDNS will forward the call to your IP address on the specified port, your Router will receive this traffic on that port and forward to the tivos ip on that port and the outside web browser will have access to your tivo.

danny7481
04-01-2006, 01:20 PM
ok, i ran the zipper on my philips dsr708 tivo and the zipper reported success, i forgot to unmount the cd afterwards (dont know if that screwed things up or not), i put the hd back in the tivo it booted up twice (like the instructions says). when trying to telnet to the tivo i get an error "could not open connection to the host , on port 23: connect failed". i checked the troubleshooting section of the zipper wiki, my adapter is compatable (linksys wusb11 version 2.6, which is certified compatable), i turned the security of my belkin router, the link light on the adapter is not lite up, the power light is though. i am telnetting the correct ip address i created (192.168.2.13). i have no firewalls on either. please help :(

rbautch
04-01-2006, 02:35 PM
Unfortunately, there's not much more troubleshooting you can do without a serial cable. If you have one, connect it to your tivo to get a bash prompt, and run /enhancements/net-status.tcl, which will tell you what's wrong. Try running the Zipper again from scratch, and if that still fails, get a wired adapter just to get it going, and then start troubleshooting again.

danny7481
04-01-2006, 03:26 PM
yeah, i think im going to just rezipper from scratch, i guess its ok to run zipper again?
if that dont work i guess ill get a wired adapter, can i use that to just get it going and then go wireless, cause i dont really want to have to run no cable through the attic and down walls. thanks

gr8fuldude
04-01-2006, 03:56 PM
Wonderful job with this forum - I've been lurking & observing for months, but just took the jump this morning.

Got DSR7000 from Weaknees and trying to use a new Maxtor 100gb drive, successfully can install Instant Cake (it recognizes my DTiVo model) and if I install in DSR7000 it will recognize and boot up AOK. Problem occurs after using zipper to try to hack.

No error messages from zipper scripts, other than it reports I have an "HR10-250" and won't let me set up a WiFi SSID (message states this model is not supported - I assume it refers to the HR10-250).

After installing in TiVo it appears to reboot once, then gets stuck at "Welcome. Powering up". Repeated entire process several times starting from scratch (Instant Cake clean install) with same results.

It works AOK on repeated clean install with Instant Cake. This DTivo has not been activated since receiving from Weaknees or connected to a dish.

Any ideas??

AutoDestruct
04-01-2006, 04:02 PM
Every once in a while (though now with increasing frequency, I'd say 50% of the time), my Now Showing blanks out.

Specifically, if I go into Now Showing, then into a folder, say Lost, I see my Lost episodes there. If I right the 'left' button to get back to the main Now Showing list, its blank. Nothing is there, though I can seemingly page up and down (though there is no end), and I can't press select to blindly select a show.

If I go to Live TV, then back to Now Showing, its still blank. If I watch Live TV for an amount of time (say 5-10 minutes), I can go back into Now Showing and see the list, but I might get the same blank menu if I go into a folder.

Anyone else have this problem? I worked off an InstantCake image and then Zipper.

Thanks

Gunnyman
04-01-2006, 04:18 PM
Wonderful job with this forum - I've been lurking & observing for months, but just took the jump this morning.

Got DSR7000 from Weaknees and trying to use a new Maxtor 100gb drive, successfully can install Instant Cake (it recognizes my DTiVo model) and if I install in DSR7000 it will recognize and boot up AOK. Problem occurs after using zipper to try to hack.

No error messages from zipper scripts, other than it reports I have an "HR10-250" and won't let me set up a WiFi SSID (message states this model is not supported - I assume it refers to the HR10-250).

After installing in TiVo it appears to reboot once, then gets stuck at "Welcome. Powering up". Repeated entire process several times starting from scratch (Instant Cake clean install) with same results.

It works AOK on repeated clean install with Instant Cake. This DTivo has not been activated since receiving from Weaknees or connected to a dish.

Any ideas??

sounds like you bought the wrong instantcake and installed 3.xx instead if 6.2

Gunnyman
04-01-2006, 04:20 PM
Every once in a while (though now with increasing frequency, I'd say 50% of the time), my Now Showing blanks out.

Specifically, if I go into Now Showing, then into a folder, say Lost, I see my Lost episodes there. If I right the 'left' button to get back to the main Now Showing list, its blank. Nothing is there, though I can seemingly page up and down (though there is no end), and I can't press select to blindly select a show.

If I go to Live TV, then back to Now Showing, its still blank. If I watch Live TV for an amount of time (say 5-10 minutes), I can go back into Now Showing and see the list, but I might get the same blank menu if I go into a folder.

Anyone else have this problem? I worked off an InstantCake image and then Zipper.

Thanks
troubleshooting section of the wiki covers a few fixes for this.

danny7481
04-01-2006, 07:20 PM
the first time i ran the zipper, i choose not to install the software image (im using the original drive), this time should i choose to install it (if that will make a difference)? thanks

MATT1981M
04-01-2006, 07:26 PM
sounds like you bought the wrong instantcake and installed 3.xx instead if 6.2
i second that analysis... check your PM's i sent ya one....not you gunny... gr8fuldude....

MATT1981M
04-01-2006, 07:42 PM
the first time i ran the zipper, i choose not to install the software image (im using the original drive), this time should i choose to install it (if that will make a difference)? thanks
i believe you should use either serial PPP or wired ethernet to connect to the tivo and run the tweak.sh file... try that... if you dont have a serial ppp cable... i made mine and it cost me 7.00... if you spend about 10 you can even get a 1/8 stereo plug that you wouldnt have to solder.... they have one at radio shack for about 4.00 that has screw connectors... then just get a standard DB9 Serial Female adapter and some wire.. i got out some 4wire intercomm wire that i had from a prev. mod i had done and pulled one of the wires off so i just had the 3 needed... then put it all together using the image i attached to this post and voila.... success....

danny7481
04-01-2006, 07:50 PM
i believe you should use either serial PPP or wired ethernet to connect to the tivo and run the tweak.sh file... try that... if you dont have a serial ppp cable... i made mine and it cost me 7.00... if you spend about 10 you can even get a 1/8 stereo plug that you wouldnt have to solder.... they have one at radio shack for about 4.00 that has screw connectors... then just get a standard DB9 Serial Female adapter and some wire.. i got out some 4wire intercomm wire that i had from a prev. mod i had done and pulled one of the wires off so i just had the 3 needed... then put it all together using the image i attached to this post and voila.... success....

so you plug the stereo plug in the tivo and the other end to the serial to the pc? and that allowed you to telnet? afterwards could you go wireless then? thanks

2500
04-01-2006, 09:12 PM
Hey Gunny, I'm having the same problem as before. Network connections were working fine one day came back another day and no connection. Didn't mess with anything. Tried to telnet in and nothing , used bash cable and can get in, rbautch missing, so I pulled the drive and rezippered and still the only way in is through bash cable. What is up with this thing ? Is there a way to transfer rbautch file through bash cable ?

Matt L
04-01-2006, 09:47 PM
Hmm, I seem to be having network problems too. I'm open to any suggestions. I zippered my HD TiVo months ago and all was fine. I could telnet into my TiVo, ran TiVo tools etc. At that time I had the case open and my second hard drive laying on the side of the unit. About a week ago I got the 9th tee mount so I could close up my TiVo and since then I haven't been able to get into the unit via network. My router shows the connection active at 100 mhz. I went to the TiVo and the Linksys adapter shows 2 green lights so I know it's connected. My setup is hard wired too. I don't know what the problem is.

I have the address set as 192.168. 2.150, I have 5 other computers on my network, I have the address pool set to allow 6 connections in the range from 149 to 155. My DHCP client log shows 192.168.2.150 on it's list.

Reasons I wanted to get into the unit is that it is not making phone calls any more, I used to see a message flash by at about 11:15 PM indicating the call was "made", now I'm getting a make call soon message plus I want to kill soft padding. I've been having problems with the soft padding since it wont allow me to record 2 sets of shows back to back. Being "soft" I thought it should allow for this. Here is an example: Thursday I have Smallville set to record at 8:00 PM, CSI at 9:00 PM and I want to record Supernatural at 9:00 PM also. I keep getting an error message the Supernatural overlaps with CSI. Then the problem with Without a Trace and ER comes into play. I have ER set to manually record at 10:00 PM but if I get Supernatural to record I'll have a problem with it too. Again, any suggestions?

MATT1981M
04-02-2006, 12:51 AM
so you plug the stereo plug in the tivo and the other end to the serial to the pc? and that allowed you to telnet? afterwards could you go wireless then? thanks
when you "zipper" the unit you are placing most of the scripts on the unit.... then you use the serial PPP connection to telnet or use a wired connection so you can telnet in and run the tweak.sh which will then run the enhancement script... the reason u cant use wifi yet is probably because the drivers are not enabled yet on the unit.... the tweak.sh will enable them for u....

MATT1981M
04-02-2006, 01:01 AM
Hey Gunny, I'm having the same problem as before. Network connections were working fine one day came back another day and no connection. Didn't mess with anything. Tried to telnet in and nothing , used bash cable and can get in, rbautch missing, so I pulled the drive and rezippered and still the only way in is through bash cable. What is up with this thing ? Is there a way to transfer rbautch file through bash cable ?
i had this happen before... try this reply i posted to someone else....
this i can help you with...thanks to rbautch... i had almost the same issue.... use hyperterminal w/ serial ppp connection.... and as to the problem trying to connect.... type "rz" and then click on the send icon on the top (it looks like a page with some dots to the left...) then browse on ur pc and select where ever the "rbautch_files.tgz" file is located... down below make sure it says zmodem.... click send
it should take about 4 min if the connection is set at 115k.....then try to run the
cd /hacks
sh tweak.sh
...that should fix it
as to the serial PPP connection.... when you use hyperterminal make sure you set the connection to the correct com port being used... then flow control to none.... the speed should be set to 115200.... also before you send rbautch_files.tgz, make sure you run the command "cd /hacks" to set the active directory to the same folder as tweak.sh....

danny7481
04-02-2006, 05:07 AM
when you "zipper" the unit you are placing most of the scripts on the unit.... then you use the serial PPP connection to telnet or use a wired connection so you can telnet in and run the tweak.sh which will then run the enhancement script... the reason u cant use wifi yet is probably because the drivers are not enabled yet on the unit.... the tweak.sh will enable them for u....

ill get a wired adapter then, thanks!!

gr8fuldude
04-02-2006, 10:29 AM
sounds like you bought the wrong instantcake and installed 3.xx instead if 6.2
ARGH!!!!! Right you are - guess I wasn't paying close enough attention when purchasing the image

Mucho Garcia for your speed assistance!

Gunnyman
04-02-2006, 11:10 AM
De Nachos :)

Phe0nix
04-02-2006, 11:56 AM
To access from outside your network you would enter "Your_Dyn_DNS_Account_Name:2000"

I registered with DYN and i have a login & Pass to manage my account and
i'm sure you don't mean that. When i registered my Static IP with DYN i choose:

Host = David homeunix.com
IP address = 145.86.157.98

When i go into MY HOSTS i see:

david.homeunix.com


So what do i enter into the browser to link this up??


david.homeunix.com:8080
or
http://david.homeunix.com:8080

i can't get this to work

Luv2DrvFst
04-02-2006, 12:28 PM
I registered with DYN and i have a login & Pass to manage my account and
i'm sure you don't mean that. When i registered my Static IP with DYN i choose:

Host = David homeunix.com
IP address = 145.86.157.98

When i go into MY HOSTS i see:

david.homeunix.com

So what do i enter into the browser to link this up??

david.homeunix.com:8080
or
http://david.homeunix.com:8080

i can't get this to work
My two cents -- I think you're trying to do too many things at once. Before you start messing with DDNS have you ever gotten TWP to work by just entering your (external) ip address with the port you assigned from your browser? If that doesn't work, DDNS certainly isn't going to. Did you change your port configuration in tivoweb.cfg to specify port 8080? You might want to try a different port. As I recall 8080 won't work with certain routers. Also be sure you put a user name and password in there. And one last thought -- don't post your external ip address in public especially with the port you assigned to your TiVo!!

Phe0nix
04-02-2006, 12:36 PM
My two cents -- I think you're trying to do too many things at once. Before you start messing with DDNS have you ever gotten TWP to work by just entering your (external) ip address with the port you assigned from your browser? If that doesn't work, DDNS certainly isn't going to. Did you change your port configuration in tivoweb.cfg to specify port 8080? You might want to try a different port. As I recall 8080 won't work with certain routers. Also be sure you put a user name and password in there. And one last thought -- don't post your external ip address in public especially with the port you assigned to your TiVo!!

Yes i've got TWP to work. I Have a very long post on page 166.
Yes i did modify Tivoweb.cfg by adding user & pass and port which i've forwarded
No it wasn't 8080. I only used that to be on the same page as JWThiers
No , i didn't post my external ip to the public. I used a generic address. That isn't even my real Host that i selected during registration. BTW do you know how to do what i'm working on now?


Thankyou

Luv2DrvFst
04-02-2006, 12:59 PM
Yes i've got TWP to work. I Have a very long post on page 166.
Yes i did modify Tivoweb.cfg by adding user & pass and port which i've forwarded
No it wasn't 8080. I only used that to be on the same page as JWThiers
No , i didn't post my external ip to the public. I used a generic address. That isn't even my real Host that i selected during registration. BTW do you know how to do what i'm working on now?


Thankyou
All I'm suggesting is that before you add DDNS to the equation that you first satisfy yourself that you can make this work in your browser to access TWP:

http://extipaddress:xxxx

Where extipaddress is the ip address assigned to you by your ISP and xxxx is the port you set in tivoweb.cfg. When that works you can start troubleshooting the DDNS issues. Nowhere in your posts can I see that you've tried this or made it work, only that you've used the internal ip address you assigned to your TiVo.

Just tryin' to help.

Phe0nix
04-02-2006, 01:12 PM
Your correct, i have only just recently got Internal access to TWP. I have having an issue of not being able to connect through the PC connected to my Modem. I have always been able to connect through LAN PC's. I didn't know you could
type your exteranl IP with port number to access the tivo.


Thanks for your help

rbautch
04-02-2006, 03:35 PM
when you "zipper" the unit you are placing most of the scripts on the unit.... then you use the serial PPP connection to telnet or use a wired connection so you can telnet in and run the tweak.sh which will then run the enhancement script... the reason u cant use wifi yet is probably because the drivers are not enabled yet on the unit.... the tweak.sh will enable them for u....This is not true. Wireless drivers are already on the unit, so there should be not reason you would HAVE TO connect by serial. More likely the issue is WEP was left on or telnetting to the wrong IP.

rbautch
04-02-2006, 03:38 PM
Hey Gunny, I'm having the same problem as before. Network connections were working fine one day came back another day and no connection. Didn't mess with anything. Tried to telnet in and nothing , used bash cable and can get in, rbautch missing, so I pulled the drive and rezippered and still the only way in is through bash cable. What is up with this thing ? Is there a way to transfer rbautch file through bash cable ?It's a serial cable, not a bash cable. Yes, you can use the rz command to transfer a file to your tivo over serial. Check your author file to see if there are network commands that keep resetting your IP params.

shn2006
04-02-2006, 03:39 PM
well the lba48 cd from ptv is LBA48 aware so big HD's will work I dunno if the weaknees one is
other than that, the only difference is the "killed" kernels.
The way the zipper is set up, if it doesn't FIND the kernel on your tools cd it will halt.

Hey gunnyman... finally last night I did the hack... worked like a charm. Thank you and rbutch for this wonderful package...
Btw.. as far as the wekness boot CD goes, it was giving me some errors while booting (used to boot fine though) so I went with MFStool2.0 boot cd instead for HD upgrade part. piped mfsbackup mfsrestore was time consuming... but was easy and a no-brainer.

Question... (I am assuming that the new recordings are unscrambled now with zipper'd dtivo)
I think somewhere on the dd forum or this forum I read that for S2 Dtivo, you can unscarmble the old programs after the fact... If that is true, how do I unscramble the old recordings? Also... how do I get tivo desktop?

Thanks again...
: )

MATT1981M
04-02-2006, 04:18 PM
This is not true. Wireless drivers are already on the unit, so there should be not reason you would HAVE TO connect by serial. More likely the issue is WEP was left on or telnetting to the wrong IP.
i apologize.... i was under the impression it didn't "activate" until after the tweak.sh script was processed... thanks for clearing that up for me!!!!

MATT1981M
04-02-2006, 04:19 PM
Hey gunnyman... finally last night I did the hack... worked like a charm. Thank you and rbutch for this wonderful package...
Btw.. as far as the wekness boot CD goes, it was giving me some errors while booting (used to boot fine though) so I went with MFStool2.0 boot cd instead for HD upgrade part. piped mfsbackup mfsrestore was time consuming... but was easy and a no-brainer.

Question... (I am assuming that the new recordings are unscrambled now with zipper'd dtivo)
I think somewhere on the dd forum or this forum I read that for S2 Dtivo, you can unscarmble the old programs after the fact... If that is true, how do I unscramble the old recordings? Also... how do I get tivo desktop?

Thanks again...
: )
from what i understand, that is one of the things we cant discuss here on tivocommunity.com....

JWThiers
04-02-2006, 04:50 PM
Your correct, i have only just recently got Internal access to TWP. I have having an issue of not being able to connect through the PC connected to my Modem. I have always been able to connect through LAN PC's. I didn't know you could
type your exteranl IP with port number to access the tivo.


Thanks for your help
where is the computer you are using to attempt remote access located?
I can't use my dyndns account to access the tivos in my home from inside my home, I have to have my friend try to access remotely or do it myself from work. I can type my internal address but not use my external address.

JWThiers
04-02-2006, 04:55 PM
bump sorry