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Murdock
11-15-2005, 04:13 PM
In order for MRV to work does the same version of Superpatch have to be used on both Tivos? I just used the Zipper on one HDVR2 with superpatch67all and I want to MRV shows from my other HDVR2 which has 4.0.1b with Superpatch 0.7.1 but the Tivos do not see each other in Now Showing. I know the MRV works on the Tivo with 4.0.1b because I had MRV working with a Standalone (also 4.0.1b) in the past.

texster
11-15-2005, 04:28 PM
Thanks for the link. I do indeed have a wrt54g. Maybe I need another one. One thing I was looking to do was "DHCP reservations" so my PC's always get the same IP from DHCP based on their mac address, without having to actually set a static ip.


FYI, I was able to get reservations working on a wrt54g using the Sveasoft Alchemy software. Basic configuration: 2x wrt54g - primary wired to modem, secondary wired to dtivo via netgear fa 120. Set IP reservation based on tivo mac address in primary wrt. Disable dchcp on secondary wrt and designate primary router's local ip as gateway. Put both routers on same subnet and same wireless channel, SSID's can be different or disabled on secondary. Both in AP wireless mode. Enable dhcp in TWP. WDS not necessary.

This makes port forwarding very quick and easy. Additionally, you get a stronger/faster signal out of your routers.

Oh, and by the way, I am certainly no shill for the company....it''s freely available software:

http://www.sveasoft.com/modules/phpBB2/dlman.php?func=select_folder&folder_id=10


Seem to have strayed a little here, apologies if this belongs in new/different thread.

dnemec123
11-15-2005, 05:07 PM
Gunnyman,
A quick question about the support for wireless USB adapters:
On your Zipper page, you mention Netgear MA111's:

K. Connect your Tivo to your network through your router, using a USB-Ethernet adpater, like the Netgear
FA120. You may also use a wireless adapter, like the Netgear MA111.

However, the tivo.com website does not show these as being compatible? (link: http://customersupport.tivo.com/knowbase/root/public/tv2184.htm?)

Are there different drivers on the Tools CD that load the correct drivers for the MA111?

Thanks!
Dale

Gunnyman
11-15-2005, 05:12 PM
the MA111 is on this page
http://customersupport.tivo.com/knowbase/root/public/tv2184.htm?
the FA120 is on this page
http://customersupport.tivo.com/knowbase/root/public/tv2183.htm?
if there's a check mark in the box in the 2nd column it will work on a Dtivo

dnemec123
11-15-2005, 05:29 PM
the MA111 is on this page
http://customersupport.tivo.com/knowbase/root/public/tv2184.htm?
the FA120 is on this page
http://customersupport.tivo.com/knowbase/root/public/tv2183.htm?
if there's a check mark in the box in the 2nd column it will work on a Dtivo
Ok, I see it now... I'll have to try to make sure I get a version 1 instead of a version 2 of the MA111.

I'm going to be upgrading my two DTiVo's next week.

Thanks for the quick reply.
Dale

CopyCat
11-15-2005, 06:37 PM
I had the same problem with a Belkin 802.11B wireless model F5D6050, I could not even ping the fixed IP as the lights never did a thing on the adapter except turn on that it was getting power. I just ordered a wired USB adapter and will report what it does.

Well, just back in town this AM and my wired adapter was on the porch, but it did nothing for me so after checking here I found the latest updates and re-imaged my drive and loaded The Zipper and it works great, no idea why it failed before, must be newbie jitters or something, but we're connected over wireless 802.11b now, thanks guys

rbautch
11-15-2005, 08:07 PM
Sweet!

GAM
11-15-2005, 08:21 PM
I will be using a wireless adapter on one of my units. Is wireless now included in the zipper or does a separate process still have to be run to use wireless? I wasn't exactly clear from reading through the thread.

rbautch
11-15-2005, 08:39 PM
Included.

GAM
11-15-2005, 08:42 PM
Thank you very much!

c_tripps_2k
11-15-2005, 08:44 PM
Been doing a lot of reading and am not quite sure how to go about this. If I am running 6.2 on my unhacked tivo, can I just back it up using hinsdale or weaknees instructions, rename the backup and let the Zipper do the restore to the larger hard drive? I have also been reading a lot about the size of the swap file. Does the zipper create the proper swap file, restore the drive and expand it?

rbautch
11-15-2005, 09:13 PM
That will work fine. The Zipper uses 128MB swap space, which should be adequate for most users. If you're using a 300G drive, you may want to investigate how to increase swap space, which is not as trivial and changing the mfs restore command. If you want to keep your shows, you can modify line 36 of the zipper script with the appropriate mfs restore switches. Good luck!

rbautch
11-15-2005, 09:55 PM
This is a test.

trplblacksnake
11-15-2005, 11:06 PM
Ive gotten everything zippered and done. Hooked it up and so far everything is working fine. Only problem Im having is the amount of time it takes to open up my Now Playing list. It is slow! Slower than a version 3.1 tivo. What is going on? Is everyone else having this trouble? One other question is there a script that I can install that will alow me to record the new xm stations that just became available.

Gunnyman
11-15-2005, 11:21 PM
snake
this is usually due to DNS settings being wrong or non existant in the tivo.

trplblacksnake
11-15-2005, 11:35 PM
Ive checked and double checked it. Right now I have my DSL modem hooked to my router four cables going out of my router one to each one of my computers one to my tivo in my bed room and the other to the living room. In the living room I have a switch with my Xbox, PS2, and my second tivo hooked to it. The routers address is 192.168.1.1 (same as most linksys routers) computers IP is 192.168.1.101, xbox is 192.168.1.102, living rm tivo is 192.168.1.103, and my bedroom tivo is set up as 192.168.1.104 my second computer and PS2 are set up to DHCP. Im not seeing the problem. Am I just blind?

kodiakz
11-16-2005, 12:08 AM
Hi there! Serious noooooob here so please be gentle. I am not too new to Tivo hacking, just not that versed in Linux. I have an HDVR2 that I sleepered a while back. Recently the drive died so I bought a new one and Zippered it (about 20 times now!!). Everything runs great and it boots fine. I assign it a static ip of 192.168.1.102 in the setup. When back in the Tivo, I can telnet to it but no ftp and the Linksys router doesn't see it the the dhcp client list. I am using a Linksys usb200m which used to work fine with the sleeper dirvers. If I remember correctly, I had to telnet in and start ftp but can't seem to do that either. No firewall on. Other computers and xboxes on network function fine with the same dhcp setup from the router or static ip in the case of the xbox. I ran tweak and it tries to download the latest, but when prompted with the y/n setup it fails and exits. Uninstall and rerun tweak.sh yields same result. It also says that tweak.sh: tar: command not found and then it reads /enhancements/start.sh: No such file or directory. I have read every line in this thread and searched many times but the answer elludes me. I know it is something really simple, but I need help!!! Thanks!! :eek:

trplblacksnake
11-16-2005, 12:13 AM
Will it mess up my hacked Dtivo to hook it up back to the phone line? Was curious if it will undo the enhancement script and Zipper if I do. I heard that DTV is going to unmirror any DVR's that hasn't phoned home in 3o days in the near future

To this comment. I have been working for DTV the last 2 years. We have no way of telling if the tivo has "called home" we can only tell if the receiver has downloaded the ppvs or not. If the ppv is turned on by remote and we dont receive a call within 60 days we then turn off ppv ordering not the mirroring. Dont expect this to happen ever. DTV likes their money too much. Hell theyre giving away HR10-250s right now for free after mail in rebates.

trplblacksnake
11-16-2005, 12:15 AM
Hi there! Serious noooooob here so please be gentle. I am not too new to Tivo hacking, just not that versed in Linux. I have an HDVR2 that I sleepered a while back. Recently the drive died so I bought a new one and Zippered it (about 20 times now!!). Everything runs great and it boots fine. I assign it a static ip of 192.168.1.102 in the setup. When back in the Tivo, I can telnet to it but no ftp and the Linksys router doesn't see it the the dhcp client list. I am using a Linksys usb200m which used to work fine with the sleeper dirvers. If I remember correctly, I had to telnet in and start ftp but can't seem to do that either. No firewall on. Other computers and xboxes on network function fine with the same dhcp setup from the router or static ip in the case of the xbox. I ran tweak and it tries to download the latest, but when prompted with the y/n setup it fails and exits. Uninstall and rerun tweak.sh yields same result. It also says that tweak.sh: tar: command not found and then it reads /enhancements/start.sh: No such file or directory. I have read every line in this thread and searched many times but the answer elludes me. I know it is something really simple, but I need help!!! Thanks!! :eek:
I had the same problem reset the router by unplugging it and holding the reset button in for 10 or 15 seconds. It will then recognize it. Im just having a problem with my damn list running too slow. Hey gunny by any chance could a bad cable cause this?

kodiakz
11-16-2005, 12:35 AM
Thanks for the suggestion, but no luck. I forgot to mention that I can ping the tivo no prob and the lights are on on the usb200m (full duplex I think, 2 out of the 3 are on).

bengalfreak
11-16-2005, 06:05 AM
Hi there! Serious noooooob here so please be gentle. I am not too new to Tivo hacking, just not that versed in Linux. I have an HDVR2 that I sleepered a while back. Recently the drive died so I bought a new one and Zippered it (about 20 times now!!). Everything runs great and it boots fine. I assign it a static ip of 192.168.1.102 in the setup. When back in the Tivo, I can telnet to it but no ftp and the Linksys router doesn't see it the the dhcp client list. I am using a Linksys usb200m which used to work fine with the sleeper dirvers. If I remember correctly, I had to telnet in and start ftp but can't seem to do that either. No firewall on. Other computers and xboxes on network function fine with the same dhcp setup from the router or static ip in the case of the xbox. I ran tweak and it tries to download the latest, but when prompted with the y/n setup it fails and exits. Uninstall and rerun tweak.sh yields same result. It also says that tweak.sh: tar: command not found and then it reads /enhancements/start.sh: No such file or directory. I have read every line in this thread and searched many times but the answer elludes me. I know it is something really simple, but I need help!!! Thanks!! :eek:

If you are assigning the Tivo a static ip of 192.168.1.102, then the Tivo will not show up in your DHCP map as you are not using DHCP to give it an IP address. Unless you have changed it, most Linksys routers start DHCP addresses at 192.168.1.100. The router would give the first device it finds an IP of 192.168.1.101 then next would be 102 and so on. If yours starts there and you are not limiting the maximum number of DHCP addresses to 2, then the static IP you have assigned your Tivo is in your DHCP range which is most likely causing your problems.

I have my DHCP start at 100 and assign a maximum of 10 IP's meaning my DHCP list would stop at 110. The static IP's I assign my Tivos start at 192.168.1.120 and go up from there to avoid any IP conflicts.

Gunnyman
11-16-2005, 08:11 AM
Ive checked and double checked it. Right now I have my DSL modem hooked to my router four cables going out of my router one to each one of my computers one to my tivo in my bed room and the other to the living room. In the living room I have a switch with my Xbox, PS2, and my second tivo hooked to it. The routers address is 192.168.1.1 (same as most linksys routers) computers IP is 192.168.1.101, xbox is 192.168.1.102, living rm tivo is 192.168.1.103, and my bedroom tivo is set up as 192.168.1.104 my second computer and PS2 are set up to DHCP. Im not seeing the problem. Am I just blind?
go into tivoweb
choose mfs
choose state
choose network
click on the link under Id.
click on the link in IP params
tell me what it says there.

kodiakz
11-16-2005, 09:31 AM
If you are assigning the Tivo a static ip of 192.168.1.102, then the Tivo will not show up in your DHCP map as you are not using DHCP to give it an IP address. Unless you have changed it, most Linksys routers start DHCP addresses at 192.168.1.100. The router would give the first device it finds an IP of 192.168.1.101 then next would be 102 and so on. If yours starts there and you are not limiting the maximum number of DHCP addresses to 2, then the static IP you have assigned your Tivo is in your DHCP range which is most likely causing your problems.

I have my DHCP start at 100 and assign a maximum of 10 IP's meaning my DHCP list would stop at 110. The static IP's I assign my Tivos start at 192.168.1.120 and go up from there to avoid any IP conflicts.
That might explain why the router is not showing the tivo in the clients list (although there is another computer on the network showing at 192.168.1.103), but why then am I able to telnet/ping but not ftp?

Must I get dos2unix and .tar on the tivo before the rbautch file will run successfully? If so, and considering I can't ftp, how can I get them there? I tried putting those files on my zipper cd and copying them to the tivo but then it would not boot. Arrrgghhhhh!! It is always the little things that end up kicking your butt for days on end!!!

Gunnyman
11-16-2005, 10:57 AM
zipper puts dos2unix and tar and everything else you need to get tivo up and running.
after you zipper, and boot tivo and are able to ping, have you rebooted Tivo?
Try that if not.

kodiakz
11-16-2005, 11:03 AM
Gunny, thanks for the reply. Yes, have rebooted MANY times, lol!! I can telnet fine and can ping fine just can't ftp and don't know my way around well enough to do what I need from the telnet prompt. Have run rbautch many times but it never goes all the way through the setup after you enter 'y' for expert setup and I am never able to answer any questions at all.

Strangely, the first few times I rebooted, the tivo would show up in the dhcp client list but no longer does so. :(

Gunnyman
11-16-2005, 11:10 AM
ok you can telnet, that's a good start.
from bash
do a ps
see if tivoftpd is running
if it is, then detail for me if you can from a command prompt get in to ftp
just type ftp then hit enter
then type open (whatever your tivo IP address is) and hit enter
report the results here

rbautch
11-16-2005, 11:27 AM
Secure Client VPN is one application known to interfere with FTP. Check /busybox to make sure tar is there. When telnetting, are you following the instructions for Windows XP SP2 users?

Gunnyman
11-16-2005, 11:40 AM
I'd forgotten about that.
We had the exact same issue on Frylock's machines and used that VPN.

kodiakz
11-16-2005, 12:07 PM
I am able to use ftp to other locations no prob and know my way around that program pretty well. When you say do a 'ps' how do I do that or what is it? I do not nave any vpn running at all and have disabled all firewalls and am using the latest zipper and rbautch files from 11.13 I think. Is there a command from the bash promt to start tivoftpd?

Gunnyman
11-16-2005, 12:09 PM
type ps from bash and hit enter
look for tivoftpd in that list.
if it's NOT running type tivoftpd at the bash prmpt

trplblacksnake
11-16-2005, 12:25 PM
HostAddress = 192.168.1.103
SubnetMask = 255.255.255.0
GatewayAddress = 192.168.1.1
DnsServers = 192.168.1.1
and
HostAddress = 192.168.1.104
SubnetMask = 255.255.255.0
GatewayAddress = 192.168.1.1
DnsServers = 192.168.1.1

Gunnyman
11-16-2005, 12:34 PM
does your tivo have access to the Internet?
Two ways to check this
1) install javahmo from javahmo.sourceforge.net and start a plugin that would hit the internet for info like The weather.
2) temporarily disable the two route commands in rc.sysinit.author by puting a # in front of them and reboot the Tivo.
If your tivo CAN hit the internet, I'm scratching my head, if it can't You need to see if your router is blocking tivo from internet access, if it isn't, then you need to determine the dns address your ISP uses. this can be found in your router's setup pages.
Once you have this info run the netconfig module in tivoweb and put in the dns address in the appropriate blank. Reboot tivo.
This should fix it.

dellhop
11-16-2005, 12:44 PM
Do you think the Instantcake image for the Samsung-S4080 and S4120 are close enough to use one or the other on both?

I am so freaking close to hacking my tivo's and its thank to you guys that I will most likely do it in the next few weeks. Thank you

Gunnyman
11-16-2005, 12:45 PM
yes how large a drive will you be using?

mercurial
11-16-2005, 12:48 PM
That's an awfully personal question, Gunny.

kodiakz
11-16-2005, 12:50 PM
Tried both 'ps' and 'tivoftpd' at bash (following the instructions for xpsp2) and get command not found on both. Is there a command to tell it to run ps or ftp or are those executable by just enetering the name?

dellhop
11-16-2005, 12:52 PM
yes how large a drive will you be using?

Between 180 and 250 most likely.

Actually one more quick question. Do you think Zipper and all the tools would work on a laptop using an external HD encloser? Thanks again,

Gunnyman
11-16-2005, 12:53 PM
right
those two commands are all you should need
try
cd /busybox
then the commands.
I wonder if something is screwy with the author file.

AJRitz
11-16-2005, 01:03 PM
Gunny-
This is starting to sound suspiciously like the situation I had, with the fubared busybox.

Gunnyman
11-16-2005, 01:05 PM
Between 180 and 250 most likely.

Actually one more quick question. Do you think Zipper and all the tools would work on a laptop using an external HD encloser? Thanks again,
in answer to question 1 either instantcake image would be fine then
question 2: I'm afraid not. The boot disk doens't have USB drivers for IDE enclosures on it. So you will need a desktop PC.

Gunnyman
11-16-2005, 01:06 PM
Gunny-
This is starting to sound suspiciously like the situation I had, with the fubared busybox.

yeah it is, but that shouldn't happen with Zipper.

dellhop
11-16-2005, 01:08 PM
Sounds good. Thanks Gunny. Guess i'll be locked up in the office for a few hours hacking away. Have a good one.

mikesown
11-16-2005, 01:28 PM
Exactly what would you be trying to make the DTivo do?
Sorry for not being more clear, but essentially my idea would be to have a setup where you ran a phone cord from the directv's phone port into your computers modem port. Essentially, my idea is to trick the DirecTivo into thinking that your computer was really DirecTV, and fool it into installing the updates via the phone port. That way, you could just send it a brand new OS with HMO enabled, so you wouldn't need to touch your Tivo's innards; the updates would be delivered via the phone jack. Would this be feasable?

Mike

Gunnyman
11-16-2005, 01:47 PM
nope
for too many reasons to explain here.

dnemec123
11-16-2005, 02:16 PM
backing up and restoring is fine just do hinsdale method then use teh zipper
This caught my attention. I just need a clarification of my understanding:

So, I can use the Hinsdale method to preserve my SP's, settings, and recordings onto a larger hard drive (I'm upgrading from the 40GB DirecTiVo to a QuickView 120GB drive).

Then I run The Zipper on the larger hard drive and it will make the changes and still preserve my SP's, settings and recordings.

Is this correct?

Thanks!
Dale

Gunnyman
11-16-2005, 02:34 PM
correct-o-mundo

SteelersFan
11-16-2005, 02:35 PM
The Weaknees method also works.

dnemec123
11-16-2005, 07:16 PM
Sorry to be dense, but I'm just about to pull the trigger on hacking my two DirecTiVo's:

If I use the Hinsdale method to save my current setup, do I still want to have the Zipper script use image 00001? In other words, do I replace my current v6.2 OS with the 00001 v6.2 OS?

Thanks again!
Dale

Gunnyman
11-16-2005, 07:38 PM
no
just skip the image stuff.

trplblacksnake
11-16-2005, 07:54 PM
does your tivo have access to the Internet?
Two ways to check this
1) install javahmo from javahmo.sourceforge.net and start a plugin that would hit the internet for info like The weather.
2) temporarily disable the two route commands in rc.sysinit.author by puting a # in front of them and reboot the Tivo.
If your tivo CAN hit the internet, I'm scratching my head, if it can't You need to see if your router is blocking tivo from internet access, if it isn't, then you need to determine the dns address your ISP uses. this can be found in your router's setup pages.
Once you have this info run the netconfig module in tivoweb and put in the dns address in the appropriate blank. Reboot tivo.
This should fix it.
After looking at my DNS again I noticed I had my DNS set up to the wrong address. I appreciate all the help getting this to work. My wife loves it. She really likes not getting up to see who is calling when the phone rings. Many props to these two guys. If anyone is feeling a little skittish about doing this it is well worth it. Took about 30 min to do everything on both tivos.

Gunnyman
11-16-2005, 08:08 PM
Yay!

kodiakz
11-16-2005, 08:15 PM
Gunny, I type cd /busybox at the bash prompt but nothing really happens. Then I typed in ps and then tivoftpd and still command not found. Are we having fun yet!!!! lol

Philly Bill
11-16-2005, 09:14 PM
Ok, so I just ordered 2 Netgear FA120's off ebay for $26 delivered.. :)

I want to wire my TIVOs up... so I need to pull the cable yet (of course I guess I could just run it down the hallway to be sure it works first... then pull the cable through the walls/attic afterward (good idea) :)

I have put 300GB drives in each of the two TIVOs. They both have 6.2 on them. No hacks, nothing but bigger HDs. I was planning to do Gunny's unguide on them and then add hacks.... but now with the Zipper...... is it better to do the unguide, then apply the hacks (as described by sonyuser in the quote above)? I'm not going to do the first part of this thread.. no wireless for me... Unless someone can convince me otherwise, it seems that its a LOT cheaper to wire 'em than to have to buy wireless adapters for both units.

So do I just bypass the unguide and hack applying and just do the Zipper on my units?

:)

Using the Zipper automates the entire process described in the unguide, and it also contains my Enhancement script that's in the second link. It accomplishes the exact same thing as running both separately, but it's a whole lot easier. Wired/wireless is about the same cost. If you paid $26 for two adapters that's a great deal. A wireless adapter can be had on Ebay for about $25. You'll get faster transfer speeds with wired, so if you can run cable, that's preferable. www.deepsurplus.com has become my favorite place to buy CAT-5 cable. 100' patch cables are $6.50.

But I guess what I really need to know Russ (or Gunny) is can I do this process on my TIVOS that have already had their drives upgraded? Will I lose all my recordings and such by using a different image other than what is already on there?

Gunnyman
11-16-2005, 09:20 PM
Gunny, I type cd /busybox at the bash prompt but nothing really happens. Then I typed in ps and then tivoftpd and still command not found. Are we having fun yet!!!! lol
rezipper
something ain't right.

Gunnyman
11-16-2005, 09:20 PM
But I guess what I really need to know Russ (or Gunny) is can I do this process on my TIVOS that have already had their drives upgraded? Will I lose all my recordings and such by using a different image other than what is already on there?

you can zipper without losing shows. The image install is OPTIONAL.

Philly Bill
11-16-2005, 09:25 PM
you can zipper without losing shows. The image install is OPTIONAL.

:D :up:

sandpj
11-16-2005, 09:55 PM
This is a test.

Four SD-Tivo's successfully Zippered, but I have been hesitant to Zipper the HR10-250.
Any results from this test?
Thx...Paul

rbautch
11-16-2005, 10:06 PM
Try it!

sandpj
11-16-2005, 11:03 PM
OK, I'll take the dive tomorrow. But several very basic questions...

On your directions, you state:

"If you have an HR10-250 Tivo, download Alphawolf's all-in-one utility set to /busybox, and
make sure /busybox is in your PATH statement"

I downloaded the utility which includes tar and dos2unix. Why do these need to be ftp'd to a HR10-250? Do they need to be ftp'd prior to running tweak?

Author file reads as follows:
export PATH=./:.:/utils:/bin:/sbin:/tvbin:/tivobin:/busybox
Is that correct?

Thx..Paul

kodiakz
11-16-2005, 11:08 PM
Okay. Rezippered and assigned 192.1681.120 ip address. I cannot ping or telnet to that address, but I can to 192.168.1.102. Still no ftp, no ps, no ftpd. I checked and made another zipper cd with all the latest files. At no point during the zipper install do I see any of the rbautch or other files being copied to the tivo drive. It does not tell me what the sysinit.author file is either, just tells me success go stick drive in tivo and it does boot fine and lights up the ethernet adapt.

GAM
11-17-2005, 02:12 AM
I ran zipper on two units and everything was fine until this morning. I can ping both units but I can't telnet to either of them. I can even access them from the Now Playing list and transfer shows but I can't telnet or Tivoweb. What is going on?

Gunnyman
11-17-2005, 07:18 AM
Okay. Rezippered and assigned 192.1681.120 ip address. I cannot ping or telnet to that address, but I can to 192.168.1.102. Still no ftp, no ps, no ftpd. I checked and made another zipper cd with all the latest files. At no point during the zipper install do I see any of the rbautch or other files being copied to the tivo drive. It does not tell me what the sysinit.author file is either, just tells me success go stick drive in tivo and it does boot fine and lights up the ethernet adapt.
ok time for you to detail exactly the process you used. It SOUNDS like your zipper cd is incomplete.

GAM
11-17-2005, 07:23 AM
I ran zipper on two units and everything was fine until this morning. I can ping both units but I can't telnet to either of them. I can even access them from the Now Playing list and transfer shows but I can't telnet or Tivoweb. What is going on?


It is 4 hours later and now I have acess through both Tivoweb and Telnet on both.
Wait...I was in Tivoweb on one unit and quit through the restart link and now I have no access through Tivoweb or Telnet but I can ping.
Any ideas.

Gunnyman
11-17-2005, 07:28 AM
yeah the tivoweb restart thing is buggy.
do a quit then restart it from bash instead with twp.

GAM
11-17-2005, 07:30 AM
yeah the tivoweb restart thing is buggy.
do a quit then restart it from bash instead with twp.


I can't telnet either. When I did get back in this morning I had to start telnet in hackman. What should I do. Will TivoWeb come back after a while?

GAM
11-17-2005, 07:36 AM
I can't telnet either. When I did get back in this morning I had to start telnet in hackman. What should I do. Will TivoWeb come back after a while?


I am looking in my other unit on Tivoweb. In Hackman telnet and tivowebplus have a red boot button - is that right or should it be green?

Gunnyman
11-17-2005, 07:37 AM
sounds like hackman got screwed up. I don't use it to manage my author file.
to get things right again unless you have a serial cable, you are pulling the drive unless you have ftp.
if you have ftp, you can grab a the author file I have on my original unguide site. Just copy/paste it from my page and open it in a unix friendly text editor like metapad.
Save it as a unix txt file then ftp it to etc/rc.d.
If your tivo file system is in read only mode, this wont work of course and its pull the drive time.

GAM
11-17-2005, 07:38 AM
sounds like hackman got screwed up. I don't use it to manage my author file.
to get things right again unless you have a serial cable, you are pulling the drive unless you have ftp.
if you have ftp, you can grab a the author file I have on my original unguide site. Just copy/paste it from my page and open it in a unix friendly text editor like metapad.
Save it as a unix txt file then ftp it to etc/rc.d.
If your tivo file system is in read only mode, this wont work of course and its pull the drive time.


Pull thr drive and do what? Rerun zipper.

Gunnyman
11-17-2005, 07:38 AM
I am looking in my other unit on Tivoweb. In Hackman telnet and tivowebplus have a red boot button - is that right or should it be green?
it should be green.
hackman is weird like this for some reason and I don't use it to manage hacks that run at statup for this very reason.

Gunnyman
11-17-2005, 07:38 AM
Pull thr drive and do what? Rerun zipper.
yeah

GAM
11-17-2005, 07:46 AM
yeah


You can rerun zipper on the same drive.

Gunnyman
11-17-2005, 07:47 AM
yes
just leave out the image step when it asks if you want to image say no

GAM
11-17-2005, 07:52 AM
yes
just leave out the image step when it asks if you want to image say no


Do I also telnet in and rerun the enhancement script?

Gunnyman
11-17-2005, 07:55 AM
probably won't need to but it won't hurt anything.

GAM
11-17-2005, 08:07 AM
It also seems 30 second skip is on by default, what is the best way to turn off and not run at boot?

Gunnyman
11-17-2005, 08:11 AM
that's very difficult to do, you have to modify superpatch to remove it.
Just do select play select 30 select to turn it back off.

GAM
11-17-2005, 08:14 AM
You can rerun zipper on the same drive.

If I don't rerun zipper and therefore have no web or telnet access, does it affect the Tivo because it seems to run fine and even transfer through MRV.

Gunnyman
11-17-2005, 08:16 AM
you just won't be able to add any other hacks until you regain telnet access. And like I said before all that you reaally need to do that (if you still have ftp) is put another author file in place.

GAM
11-17-2005, 08:27 AM
you just won't be able to add any other hacks until you regain telnet access. And like I said before all that you reaally need to do that (if you still have ftp) is put another author file in place.


I don't have ftp either, I guess I'll pull the drive when I get a chance but if I understand you it is not urgent, right?

Gunnyman
11-17-2005, 08:37 AM
right

rbautch
11-17-2005, 08:41 AM
OK, I'll take the dive tomorrow. But several very basic questions...

On your directions, you state:

"If you have an HR10-250 Tivo, download Alphawolf's all-in-one utility set to /busybox, and
make sure /busybox is in your PATH statement"

I downloaded the utility which includes tar and dos2unix. Why do these need to be ftp'd to a HR10-250? Do they need to be ftp'd prior to running tweak?

Author file reads as follows:
export PATH=./:.:/utils:/bin:/sbin:/tvbin:/tivobin:/busybox
Is that correct?

Thx..PaulThe utility you dowload should be called "tivotools" and should contain much more than dos2unix and tar. You're looking at the wrong directions, however. The directions in the enhancement thread are meant for pople not running the zipper. Just follow the directions on the zipper site, and you'll be fine.

GAM
11-17-2005, 08:42 AM
Thanks for all your help!!
You are the best!!!!

rbautch
11-17-2005, 08:45 AM
Gunny, clear your PM. Mr. popular....

Gunnyman
11-17-2005, 08:45 AM
oops ok

GAM
11-17-2005, 09:18 AM
Gunny, I used the zipper on my 40gb previously unhacked drive and everything works fine, Thanks!
I want to increase the drive size by upgrading, do I follow the regular Hinsdale type method and can I save recordings?

Gunnyman
11-17-2005, 09:25 AM
yes and yes

kodiakz
11-17-2005, 09:44 AM
Gunny, I went back and triple checked everything on the cd. All files were exactly as spelled out in the guide, except the vm.linux.gz file is 1.14 MB, not the 1k shown in the pic. Also, the pic shows the author file to be 1k where as the one I am using from the tools cd is 489 bytes. I am using rbautch files from 11/13. The zipper does seem to run fine and I can get bash which is strange. Would the usb/ethernet adaptor even light up if the hacks were not intalled? Are the ethernet drivers loaded by default when using 6.2? Since I can get bash, is there a simple way to transfer over fakecall.tcl and just run it from there?

Gunnyman
11-17-2005, 09:54 AM
gonna have to defer to rbautch here...

GAM
11-17-2005, 10:11 AM
In Tivoweb is checking what's on and recording shows very slow or is it just me?

Gunnyman
11-17-2005, 11:11 AM
yeah its slow lots of data to parse

GAM
11-17-2005, 11:13 AM
It is 4 hours later and now I have acess through both Tivoweb and Telnet on both.
Wait...I was in Tivoweb on one unit and quit through the restart link and now I have no access through Tivoweb or Telnet but I can ping.
Any ideas.


Gunny, I think I figured out why I was able to get back into TivoWeb in the morning. Rbautch's script sets the cron setup to restart TivoWeb at 3am.

So I guess I will wait until tomorrow morning go into TivoWeb and restart Telnet.
Also, I will change the Tivoweb and Telnet boot buttons to green so they start on a Tivo reboot which they must not be doing now.

Does that plan make sense?

Gunnyman
11-17-2005, 11:20 AM
thing is, if hackman has telnet turned off it will stay that way
hackman modifies your authorfile

GAM
11-17-2005, 11:30 AM
On my other unit when I saw what was happening I changed the boot buttons to green for Tivoweb and Telnet and saved. Then I rebooted and I had access so it looks to have updated the authorfile. So the same procedure should work on my other unit when I can get into Tivoweb on its daily restart, don't you think?

Gunnyman
11-17-2005, 11:32 AM
hopefully :D

GAM
11-17-2005, 05:38 PM
In the pick programs to record section what is Search by Title (Demo) ?

Gunnyman
11-17-2005, 05:53 PM
a leftover from hacking
just ignore it and no we can't seem to make it go away.

GAM
11-17-2005, 05:55 PM
a leftover from hacking
just ignore it and no we can't seem to make it go away.


Ignore what?! ;)

rbautch
11-17-2005, 07:33 PM
Let's steer this thread back on course. It's for discussion of the Zipper installation only. After you're zippered, please read the threads dedicated to the hacks your using first, and then if you still have questions, post a question there, or start a new thread in the underground forum. Reference this (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=3387851&&#post3387851) for more information on the reasoning. Out of necessity (and Gunnyman's sanity), general hacking questions in this thread will start to be ignored.

Ran94
11-17-2005, 07:44 PM
Gunnyman and rbautch, and your testers...thank you for all the work you have put into this.

I got a RCA DVR40...what is the maximum size for a hard drive that I can use with The Zipper? Currently, unhacked 6.20 40 gb.

Thanx again

Gunnyman
11-17-2005, 07:45 PM
I think 250 is about as big as you want to go before you have to modify the tivo swap file size which isn't trivial to do.

Ran94
11-17-2005, 07:47 PM
Gunnyman, thank you for the quick reply.

Gunnyman
11-17-2005, 07:48 PM
I have no life :D

kodiakz
11-17-2005, 08:28 PM
rbautch, have tried every suggestion I can find here and still can't get the enhancement script to run after zippering. If I try to run it again , it defers to the uninstall so I know some of it is there. When it tried to update it fails part way through. When I try to run sh .tweak.sh and then answer y to the setup, I am never prompted to install any extra hacks and I think it fails to fully execute. I have rezippered at least 20 times and have my install disk just like the one gunny gives as example (my files are not burned in alphbetical order like the demo--that wouldn't cause a problem would it?) and still no luck. Is there a way to transfer the necessary files by telnet and then install them with bash commands?

My wife is going to send me out to the singles bar soon if I spend too much more time on this (thought it would take a few hours --- hahahahah not). Any help more than appreciated!!!! :eek:

Gunnyman
11-17-2005, 08:41 PM
so what's missing?
still have no /busybox?

kodiakz
11-17-2005, 10:09 PM
gunny, if that reply was for me (not sure!!) I don;t know if I have busybox or not. I did notice a few minutes ago when trying zipper again that it said tar: skipping to next file header. So maybe it is not copying everything needed.

kodiakz
11-17-2005, 10:14 PM
Here is another (dumb) question. Does it matter if the tivo is powered on when trying to ftp, or does it need to be in standby?
Is there a method to simply copy a tcl over via tlenet and then make it run or to change the author file to include it?

rbautch
11-17-2005, 10:22 PM
rbautch, have tried every suggestion I can find here and still can't get the enhancement script to run after zippering. If I try to run it again , it defers to the uninstall so I know some of it is there. When it tried to update it fails part way through. When I try to run sh .tweak.sh and then answer y to the setup, I am never prompted to install any extra hacks and I think it fails to fully execute. I have rezippered at least 20 times and have my install disk just like the one gunny gives as example (my files are not burned in alphbetical order like the demo--that wouldn't cause a problem would it?) and still no luck. Is there a way to transfer the necessary files by telnet and then install them with bash commands?

My wife is going to send me out to the singles bar soon if I spend too much more time on this (thought it would take a few hours --- hahahahah not). Any help more than appreciated!!!! :eek:You have telnet access, which is good. That means drivers are loaded properly and the Zipper did everything it should. When you telnet, are you following the instructions for Windows XP Service Pack 2 users? Did you run dos2unix on tweak.sh? I wouldn't rezipper anymore, because once you have telnet access, the Zipper has done its job and you can do everything else from telnet. The only way to troubleshoot is to post exactly what error messages you are getting. Before you do that, run the uninstall script from /hacks, and then verify that tweak.sh and rbautch-files.tgz are both in that directory. Then verify you have a /busybox directory, and it's filled with many utilities, including tar and wget. Then run the tweak.sh script, and tell me EXACTLY what happens. Not sure what "defers to the uninstall means". One other thing to try is to download the tweak.sh script from the first post in the enhancements link in my signature. It's basically the same one that the Zipper copies to your hacks directory, but it gets all the files you need by downloading them from my website on the fly.

rbautch
11-17-2005, 10:27 PM
gunny, if that reply was for me (not sure!!) I don;t know if I have busybox or not. I did notice a few minutes ago when trying zipper again that it said tar: skipping to next file header. So maybe it is not copying everything needed.If you don't know how to check for the existance of a file or directory, you have some reading to do that is beyond the scope of this thread. There are many basic linux tutorials available on line, and won't take more than an hour of your time.

kodiakz
11-17-2005, 10:44 PM
Thanks, rbautch. (And no, I don't know much about linux). I am apparently missing wget--I get command not found. Also getting the same command not found for .//tweak.sh: tar: . Then I answer yes to start the setup and get .//tweak.sh: enhancements/start.sh: No such file or directory. I did verify the /busybox directory.

GAM
11-17-2005, 10:57 PM
Gunny, I'm trying to run ps to see what's running but I'm getting command not found. I checked through FTP and I have the busybox directory and under that is a ps folder that looks like a windows shortcut. Is this right?

rbautch
11-17-2005, 11:22 PM
Gam and Kodiakz, look at your tools disk. Do have tivotools.tar.rar or tivotools.tar

GAM
11-17-2005, 11:27 PM
I have tivotools.tar

kodiakz
11-17-2005, 11:28 PM
Mine is Tivotools.tar What does it need to be?

rbautch
11-18-2005, 12:20 AM
Mine is Tivotools.tar What does it need to be?Should be tivotools.tar, all lower case. If you used an initial cap, it would fail. Go your /busybox directory and see if tar is there. If so, enter "tar" at bash to see if it works. Then navigate away from /busybox, and try it again.

kodiakz
11-18-2005, 01:03 AM
Using lowercase tivotools as prescribed. Change directory to busybox and it won't run either tar or dos2unix; both say command not found. Very strange in that every so many times that I redo the zipper, the tivo will appear in my dhcp client list but not with the static ip that I assign during the zipper prosess. Also, in the tivotools.tar archive, the tar and dos2unix both show as 0kb but I don't know if that necessarily means anything.

rbautch
11-18-2005, 01:20 AM
Using lowercase tivotools as prescribed. Change directory to busybox and it won't run either tar or dos2unix; both say command not found. Very strange in that every so many times that I redo the zipper, the tivo will appear in my dhcp client list but not with the static ip that I assign during the zipper prosess. Also, in the tivotools.tar archive, the tar and dos2unix both show as 0kb but I don't know if that necessarily means anything.They shouldnt be showing 0kb. Try downloading again, and check the files on your pc for file size > 0.

kodiakz
11-18-2005, 01:38 AM
Well, those files show as 0kb inside the tivotools.tar file, and you get an error if you try to exract them to the pc without linking to busybox.

When I try to ftp to the tivo, it will connect but never shows any directories or files and then eventually the connection times out.

EmptySkuLL
11-18-2005, 04:40 AM
Hey guys,

I know that on the zipper site it states that this will not work on an R10, and I have searched this thread and only found 2 references to an R10, both stating that prom mods are needed to even work on the R10.

My question however, is that the posts never specifically stated if once the prom mod was done, weather the zipper would work on an R10 or not. And if not, why? Is there some script change that needs to be made for it to work specifically with the R10 or are the tools just incompatible.

Ive tried messing with it for shits & grins but have had no luck. Ive done the prom mod and booted the stock drive... works fine. Upgraded to 2 drives (instant cake) ... works fine. Tried running zipper (with 6.1 image from instant cake)... gray screen forever after "please wait".

Figured what the hell & Id try first before asking since I had an instant cake disk, I could just start from scratch without a hassle....

Comments?

GAM
11-18-2005, 05:19 AM
They shouldnt be showing 0kb. Try downloading again, and check the files on your pc for file size > 0.


I'm showing the same thing so I redownloaded from the link on the zipper site which goes to the other forum and I get the same thing. Inside tivotools.tar there are files that have info but there are a lot of files that have 0K. What is going on? How should we proceed?

GAM
11-18-2005, 05:33 AM
Gunny, I think I figured out why I was able to get back into TivoWeb in the morning. Rbautch's script sets the cron setup to restart TivoWeb at 3am.

So I guess I will wait until tomorrow morning go into TivoWeb and restart Telnet.
Also, I will change the Tivoweb and Telnet boot buttons to green so they start on a Tivo reboot which they must not be doing now.

Does that plan make sense?


Gunny, this did work. I now have telnet and ftp access after reboots.

I am having issues with trying to run speed. I ran it right after installing zipper on my two units and it reported fine. Now it gives me an error: Connection refused Are you sure there is a netserver running on my other units ip address (which is correct ) at port 12865?

Why am I getting this now?

MRV and everything else seem to be working, so it is weird I'm getting that error isn't it?

SonnyZ1
11-18-2005, 07:06 AM
Morning Gunnyman,
I had posted to you a couple of days ago and was asking about some help with doing something that was not allowed to be discussed here. Just wanted to post an update.
I have installed a ftp file and was able to do something not allowed to be discussed here, got video but no sound. Looks like its back to the ddb site for more information. :eek:
Random thoughts, and at this early, very random. ;)
I read through the thread yesterday on the ne DTivo r15 release. excellent work. Some very funny postings by chrishiatt. That long list of his cracked me up every time. :p I realize that it must have been very frustrating to everyone that was refreshing the site to see new updates, but reading it, after-the-fact, it was way funny.
Keep up the great work, and send my thanks along to Rbautch, for all of his hard work.
Sonny

Gunnyman
11-18-2005, 08:20 AM
Hey guys,

I know that on the zipper site it states that this will not work on an R10, and I have searched this thread and only found 2 references to an R10, both stating that prom mods are needed to even work on the R10.

My question however, is that the posts never specifically stated if once the prom mod was done, weather the zipper would work on an R10 or not. And if not, why? Is there some script change that needs to be made for it to work specifically with the R10 or are the tools just incompatible.

Ive tried messing with it for shits & grins but have had no luck. Ive done the prom mod and booted the stock drive... works fine. Upgraded to 2 drives (instant cake) ... works fine. Tried running zipper (with 6.1 image from instant cake)... gray screen forever after "please wait".

Figured what the hell & Id try first before asking since I had an instant cake disk, I could just start from scratch without a hassle....

Comments?
you need to find a compatible kernel with 6.1 check over on ddb to see which one you need.

Gunnyman
11-18-2005, 08:39 AM
Gunny, this did work. I now have telnet and ftp access after reboots.

I am having issues with trying to run speed. I ran it right after installing zipper on my two units and it reported fine. Now it gives me an error: Connection refused Are you sure there is a netserver running on my other units ip address (which is correct ) at port 12865?

Why am I getting this now?

MRV and everything else seem to be working, so it is weird I'm getting that error isn't it?
did deductive reasoning tell you to maybe telnet to the other tivo and see if netperf was running?

rbautch
11-18-2005, 08:55 AM
I'm showing the same thing so I redownloaded from the link on the zipper site which goes to the other forum and I get the same thing. Inside tivotools.tar there are files that have info but there are a lot of files that have 0K. What is going on? How should we proceed?I don't know. Shouldn't be any blank files in there. I just downloaded a fresh copy, and there's a few small files (1K), but no empty ones.

rbautch
11-18-2005, 08:57 AM
you need to find a compatible kernel with 6.1 check over on ddb to see which one you need.If you have a prom modded R10, then you don't need the Zipper, or a compromised kernel. You can procede directly to the enhancement script in my sig, which works fine with a prom-modded R10.

Gunnyman
11-18-2005, 09:13 AM
wow I didn;t know the prom mod took care of killhdinitrd good to know!

GAM
11-18-2005, 09:21 AM
I don't know. Shouldn't be any blank files in there. I just downloaded a fresh copy, and there's a few small files (1K), but no empty ones.

I am having trouble because I don't think I have all the tivotools. I downloaded a little bit ago but when I look inside tivotools.tar some of the files are empty. Please advise how to get a good copy and what to do when I have them.

Gunnyman
11-18-2005, 09:23 AM
some of them WILL be empty.
those are symlinks.

GAM
11-18-2005, 09:30 AM
Gunny, I'm trying to run ps to see what's running but I'm getting command not found. I checked through FTP and I have the busybox directory and under that is a ps folder that looks like a windows shortcut. Is this right?

Gunnyman
11-18-2005, 09:34 AM
yes
try this
from bash cd /busybox
chmod 755 *
then see if you can get stuff to execute

GAM
11-18-2005, 09:39 AM
I will try that. What does that do?

Gunnyman
11-18-2005, 09:41 AM
sets permissions correctly for files
its a shot in the dark but it might work.

kodiakz
11-18-2005, 09:42 AM
Could we just copy the necessary wget, dos2unix, tar, and whatever else over via telnet? I have searched a lot and not sure if it will work or not.

Is it possible that something in my xp system or version of winrar is corrupting the tivotools.tar archive?

Gunnyman
11-18-2005, 09:45 AM
kodiak telnet doesn't have any tools for file xport.

GAM
11-18-2005, 09:46 AM
I think that is what is happening because when I look at tivotools.tar in Winrar some files are at 0 but when I use winzip they all seem to be there.
What files need to be ftp back to get this working right?

kodiakz
11-18-2005, 10:04 AM
Thanks gunny. That is what I thought. When I try to connect via flashfxp to mytivoip on port 23, it connects right away but then hangs and never shows any files or directories. The tivo is now showing up in my dhcp client list though.

kodiakz
11-18-2005, 10:14 AM
One other question that I probably should have thought of before!!! Do I need to let the tivo phone home before I even zipper the drive? Will fakecall.tcl work if the unit has not phoned home once?

GAM
11-18-2005, 10:17 AM
Gunny, what files from tivotools need to be reftp so I can run ps and other functions?

GAM
11-18-2005, 10:20 AM
yes
try this
from bash cd /busybox
chmod 755 *
then see if you can get stuff to execute


Still can't execute.

Gunnyman
11-18-2005, 10:37 AM
Gunny, what files from tivotools need to be reftp so I can run ps and other functions?
well umm ps
make sure your ftp client in in bianary mode

Gunnyman
11-18-2005, 10:37 AM
One other question that I probably should have thought of before!!! Do I need to let the tivo phone home before I even zipper the drive? Will fakecall.tcl work if the unit has not phoned home once?
yes with fakecall there's no need to phone home

GAM
11-18-2005, 11:14 AM
well umm ps
make sure your ftp client in in bianary mode


In tivotools I see pstree but not ps.
In ftp I see I have a ps folder that looks like a link.

Is netserver supposed to start automatically? How do you start manually?

I can't start anything in busybox, is my path or something like that messed up because I think I have all the files but I can't seem to run them?
I tried typing pathchk but it said command not found.

My tivos are running right but I would like to get this figured out before I do another one.

Thanks!

Gunnyman
11-18-2005, 11:41 AM
Gam
copy and paste this into a unix friendly txt editor like metapad, windows txt editors won't work. Call it rc.sysinit.author
#!/bin/bash
export TIVO_ROOT=""
export MFS_DEVICE=/dev/hda10
export PATH=./:.:/utils:/bin:/sbin:/tvbin:/tivobin:/busybox
# start telnet
tnlited 23 /bin/bash -login &
# start ftp
tivoftpd
# Enable Serial bash
/bin/bash </dev/ttyS2&> /dev/ttyS2&
# add two static routes so the tivo doesn't phone home (stops breakage)
route add -host 204.176.49.2 gw 127.0.0.1
route add -net 204.176.49.0 gw 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0


ftp it to the tivo in binary mode
to /etc/rc.d
from bash
do cd /etc/rc.d
then do chmod 755 rc.sysinit.author
reboot tivo
that should fix whatever's going on.
I suspect your author file got hosed by hackman.

GAM
11-18-2005, 11:48 AM
I think hackman messed it up too because I don't think I was having this issue until I changed my password in Hackman and rebooted.

So the file you gave me looks like it starts tivoweb and telnet on boot.
Is that right? That was another change I made in Hackman.

The static routes in the script, are those the same for everyone or do I need to change it for my network?

Gunnyman
11-18-2005, 11:51 AM
all it starts is telnet and ftp on boot
but it fixes the path statement which is why your other stuff is broken.
Just remember hackman is powerful voodoo.

GAM
11-18-2005, 11:54 AM
What about tivoweb?

Also, are the static routes the same for everyone or do I need to change for my network?

Gunnyman
11-18-2005, 11:55 AM
do as I said to do

GAM
11-18-2005, 12:13 PM
To make it easier I went in via FTP and saw there were backups ups of the author file.

The rc.sysinit.author.orig read as this:

#!/bin/bash
# Zipper author file
echo "starting rc.sysinit.author"

echo "set environmental variables"
export PATH=./:.:/utils:/bin:/sbin:/tvbin:/tivobin:/busybox:/enhancements
export TIVO_ROOT=
export MFS_DEVICE=/dev/hda10

echo "starting telnet and ftp"
tnlited 23 /bin/bash -login &
tivoftpd

echo "starting serial bash"
/bin/bash </dev/ttyS2&> /dev/ttyS2&

echo "running fakecall"
fakecall.tcl
route add -host 204.176.49.2 gw 127.0.0.1
route add -net 204.176.49.0 gw 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0


######################################
mount -o remount,rw / &>/dev/null
rm /zipper_flag &>/dev/null
mount -o remount,ro / &>/dev/null

#############################################
# starting netserver to receive netperf requests
/busybox/netserver

#############################################
# starting Tivowebplus
/enhancements/TWPrun.sh

#############################################
# start crond after waiting 30 seconds
sleep 30
/busybox/crond


Can I just rename to rc.sysinit.author and be all set?

Gunnyman
11-18-2005, 12:27 PM
yes

GAM
11-18-2005, 12:30 PM
If I do this from work and restart the Tivo from Tivoweb will it work?
It seems some functions in Tivoweb i.e. Hackman don't always work correctly.

Thanks for your help!

GAM
11-18-2005, 01:36 PM
Gunny, I restored the rc.sysinit.author file from the backup that was in there that had the .ORIG extension and everthing is now working (ps, speed, etc.)! Thanks for all your extra assistance!!

Kodiakz sounded like he was having similiar problems so he might want to try the same thing.

Gunnyman
11-18-2005, 01:37 PM
no problem

GAM
11-18-2005, 04:55 PM
Gunny, have you done the buffer hack? If so what do you think?
Can it be uninstalled?

bengalfreak
11-18-2005, 05:11 PM
kodiak telnet doesn't have any tools for file xport.


Teraterm Pro and Hyperlink both support Zmodem file transfers.

dnemec123
11-18-2005, 05:30 PM
Gunny,
One last question, I promise! :)

After using the InstantCake image onto a new hard drive, won't I need to make the one phone call into D* to activate?

What about activating Local Channels?

Thanks!
Dale

Gunnyman
11-18-2005, 09:01 PM
you won't have to use phone to activate unless you want to fakecall.tcl handles the requirement for you
locals wll come back ~24 hrs by themselves or you can call 1800 directv and use code 711 to have them activated in 5 minutes

kodiakz
11-18-2005, 09:05 PM
Well, making progress and learning hopefully!! I checked the sysinit.author file and it seems ok. When I try manually to tar the tivotools.tar archive (or use zipper) it is only completing the first 10 files and then stops at the busybox file and says "tar: skipping to next header" and then does nothing else. When I do a ls of tivo/busybox only the first 10 files are there--shouldn't all the tivotools files like the tcl files be there? Since they don;t appear to be if I am looking at it correctly, how can I get them there so everything will hopefully fall into place.

I tried the author file posted earlier (thanks by the way) but couldn't boot with that one.

GAM
11-18-2005, 09:33 PM
Well, making progress and learning hopefully!! I checked the sysinit.author file and it seems ok. When I try manually to tar the tivotools.tar archive (or use zipper) it is only completing the first 10 files and then stops at the busybox file and says "tar: skipping to next header" and then does nothing else. When I do a ls of tivo/busybox only the first 10 files are there--shouldn't all the tivotools files like the tcl files be there? Since they don;t appear to be if I am looking at it correctly, how can I get them there so everything will hopefully fall into place.

I tried the author file posted earlier (thanks by the way) but couldn't boot with that one.


I was having similar problems because Hackman messed up the author file.
See post #1152.

Your tivotools was probably fine, it was just the author file lost all the path statements it was supposed to have.

Gunnyman
11-18-2005, 09:37 PM
it sounds like your tivotools.tar file is corrupt. how did you download it? web browser? ftp client?

GAM
11-18-2005, 09:41 PM
Gunny, any comments on bufferhack?
Can it be uninstalled?

Gunnyman
11-18-2005, 09:42 PM
works fine
yes it can just run again and set buffer to 30 mins

sandpj
11-18-2005, 09:56 PM
This is a test.

Tried the test Zipper on HR10-250 with no success.

Has anyone had success with HR10-250?

Thx...Paul

GAM
11-18-2005, 09:57 PM
Thanks, what are the error options, I don't understand what kind of errors it would report?

Gunnyman
11-18-2005, 10:00 PM
no idea why don't you do some digging at ddb.

GAM
11-18-2005, 10:18 PM
I figured it out.
Thanks for all your patience, I'm just learning this stuff due to all your hardwork!
Thanks again!!

kodiakz
11-18-2005, 11:16 PM
gunny, downloaded it from the link you give in the zipper guide. Tried downloading it again but same results. ???????? Could it be some program on my system corrupting it when I unrar it or burn it?

Gam, tried you author file and could not boot, but I checked the one the zipper installed and it seemed correct.

Gunnyman
11-18-2005, 11:18 PM
could be are you using winrar or something else?

sandpj
11-18-2005, 11:23 PM
OK. Restored my backup to a new drive on HR10-250 and the Zipper worked!

However, running tweak it tries to download latest Enhancement script and I get:

wget: www.mastersav.com: Host name lookup failure

Ideas?

kodiakz
11-18-2005, 11:25 PM
Winrar to unrar it from .tar.rar to just .tar
Curious though, now that the drive is zippered and I try to just redo the zipper, it says directory already exists for many of the operations and skips them--do I need to start from a new image each time I run Zipper?

rbautch
11-18-2005, 11:31 PM
OK. Restored my backup to a new drive on HR10-250 and the Zipper worked!

However, running tweak it tries to download latest Enhancement script and I get:

wget: www.mastersav.com: Host name lookup failure

Ideas?
edit your /etc/resolv.conf file to reflect the ip address of your router (DNS). You'll get a few more errors when you run the enhancements script, but will work fine for the most part. I'll release an official working version in a few days.

rbautch
11-18-2005, 11:34 PM
Winrar to unrar it from .tar.rar to just .tar
Curious though, now that the drive is zippered and I try to just redo the zipper, it says directory already exists for many of the operations and skips them--do I need to start from a new image each time I run Zipper?

You only run the zipper once. After that, you may continue to update the enhancement script, but you must uninstall the old one first.

sandpj
11-18-2005, 11:37 PM
Obviously a newbie...

By what means should I edit that file?

kodiakz
11-19-2005, 12:00 AM
rbautch,
I am still trying to get it to run successfully for the first time. I am missing wget and tar is either not there or not working properly. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the tweak script many times, but still doesn't finish downloading nor running the script. When I do a ls on tivo/busybox, I don't see tar, dos2unix, or most of the other files that zipper is supposed to copy to that directory. I have been trying this for almost 2 weeks and would just settle for running fakecall.tcl but I don't think that is there either. I don't want to make the initial call with 6.2 from an image and I can't record anything yet as it wants to call.

sandpj
11-19-2005, 12:01 AM
The file reads as follows:

# Copyright (c) 2001 TiVo Inc. search engr.teleworld.com
nameserver 192.168.14.1nameserver 192.168.14.2

I pulled this into notepad. Did I fat-finger the router IP when I ran Zipper? It was supposed to be 192.168.1.1

Do I need to edit this in vi? Or do I use Metapad?

Thx..Paul

sandpj
11-19-2005, 12:31 AM
Got the IP changed. Tweak seems to run OK. Rebooting

rbautch
11-19-2005, 12:44 AM
rbautch,
I am still trying to get it to run successfully for the first time. I am missing wget and tar is either not there or not working properly. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the tweak script many times, but still doesn't finish downloading nor running the script. When I do a ls on tivo/busybox, I don't see tar, dos2unix, or most of the other files that zipper is supposed to copy to that directory. I have been trying this for almost 2 weeks and would just settle for running fakecall.tcl but I don't think that is there either. I don't want to make the initial call with 6.2 from an image and I can't record anything yet as it wants to call.Try unzipping tivotools.tar on your pc, and then add tar, dos2unix, and fakecall to your tools disk. Then copy those files manually to your tivo drive in /tivo/busybox while the drive is still in your pc.

sandpj
11-19-2005, 12:48 AM
On first appearance....

TWP works

HMO and permanent 30 sec skip do not.

Anything particular I can check?

Thanks for the support...Paul

rbautch
11-19-2005, 12:58 AM
On first appearance....

TWP works

HMO and permanent 30 sec skip do not.

Anything particular I can check?

Thanks for the support...PaulThey don't work becuase superpatch does not work on the HR10-250. HMO will never work because the software on the HR10-250 is old and does not include the HMO sofware code. However, the 30-sec skip and disabling encryption (no cso) can be accomplished with a manual patch of tivoapp. You can figure that out on your own, or wait for the next release of the zipper, which will include the manual patches. What is your full software version?

dnemec123
11-19-2005, 01:01 AM
Gunnyman and rbautch:
I just got done using Zipper on two new QuickView hard drives and I must say, Bravo!

Thank you so much for simplifying this via the Zipper script.

As soon as the WUSB11 wireless adapters get delivered, I'll be completing the "upgrade" of my Hughes and Samsung receivers.

Thank you again!
Dale

sandpj
11-19-2005, 01:09 AM
version 3.1.5f-01-2-357

Are the numbers after 3.1.5f significant?

I'll probably wait for the next release. Will I just be able to run the updated enhancement scripts or will I have to reimage the drive and run the new Zipper?

Any idea why Zipper did not work on the original drive?

Thx again

sandpj
11-19-2005, 01:12 AM
caller ID works.. That's cool

GAM
11-19-2005, 02:54 AM
Gunnyman and rbautch:
I just got done using Zipper on two new QuickView hard drives and I must say, Bravo!

Thank you so much for simplifying this via the Zipper script.

As soon as the WUSB11 wireless adapters get delivered, I'll be completing the "upgrade" of my Hughes and Samsung receivers.

Thank you again!
Dale

Where did you purchase the Quickview drives?

kodiakz
11-19-2005, 03:34 AM
What directory does the zipper place the fakecall file and can I execute it manually through telnet? If so, must I then chmod 755 the file?

msu72
11-19-2005, 06:52 AM
I have a question regarding expiration certificates. I hacked two dtivos using Gunny's guide about six months ago. The MRV expiration date on the first unit passed a week ago and the expiration on the second unit will pass in about two more weeks.
So far, all HMO functions still work despite the expired certificate. Why?
Are the certificate dates only checked on a reset? Or did one of the scripts involved in the hack bypass them?
In short, will HMO continue to work or do I need to fix the expiration dates. If so, what is the simplest procedure to do so? I'm not really interested adding any more enhancements. Is the Zipper the easiest fix?
Thanks.

Gunnyman
11-19-2005, 07:34 AM
What directory does the zipper place the fakecall file and can I execute it manually through telnet? If so, must I then chmod 755 the file?
/busybox
it won't need chmodding at least it shouldn't.

Gunnyman
11-19-2005, 07:35 AM
I have a question regarding expiration certificates. I hacked two dtivos using Gunny's guide about six months ago. The MRV expiration date on the first unit passed a week ago and the expiration on the second unit will pass in about two more weeks.
So far, all HMO functions still work despite the expired certificate. Why?
Are the certificate dates only checked on a reset? Or did one of the scripts involved in the hack bypass them?
In short, will HMO continue to work or do I need to fix the expiration dates. If so, what is the simplest procedure to do so? I'm not really interested adding any more enhancements. Is the Zipper the easiest fix?
Thanks.
look at the year, mine both say 1969
as for fixing them, you can do so with rbautch's enhancement script.

msu72
11-19-2005, 07:50 AM
Gunny,
Thanks for your quick response. I still need some clarification.
There are several expiration dates in the system info. They refer to something called "Spigots". I have a spigot for "TIVOPVR" that has the 1969 expiration date like yours. But I have one for "MRV" that has an expiration of Nov 15, 2005 which expired four days ago. MRV is still working.
My question is this, will it continue to work? If not, when will it stop? Do I HAVE to do anything or can I relax and enjoy it?
Thanks agan for your help.

Gunnyman
11-19-2005, 08:07 AM
it will stop when you tivo reboots
get rbautch's enhancement script from this forum and run it. This will remove those expired certs. Just don't let you dtivo call in and they shouldn't come back.
rbautch's script can be found here http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=250680

Jeff_in_Bklyn
11-19-2005, 10:16 AM
Hi,

I would like to zipper a already hacked tivo to get HMO, I made the zipper disk but I am not sure how to replace my hacked kernel (removed encription) with the original backup one so the superpach will work. Can someone give me the commands to do this? Thanks! :)

Gunnyman
11-19-2005, 10:20 AM
if your tivo is already hacked all you need is superpatch. just download it from the links in the zipper howto and ftp them to tivo and run them. Superpatch modifies tivoapp not the kernel.

dnemec123
11-19-2005, 10:41 AM
Where did you purchase the Quickview drives?
From WeakKnees.com.

They were just the plain drives, not preloaded or anything.

Dale

kodiakz
11-19-2005, 11:08 AM
Gunny,
CAn I just manually put the fakecall.tcl in the busy box dir and then telent in and run it? Please tell me if my sytax here is correct:
cp /cdrom/fakecall.tcl /tivo/busybox
then

bash #2.2 telnet
unset crlf
o 192.168.1.102
cd /busybox
fakecall.tcl or sh fakecall.tcl


If it runs okay, what will it spit out and will I need to reboot at all?

Thanks again for sticking in ther with me!!

rbautch
11-19-2005, 11:25 AM
tivosh fakecall.tcl, and then reboot

kodiakz
11-19-2005, 12:20 PM
Thanks rbautch, I'll try that. Do I need to be in the busybox directory? Is the fakecall.tcl in the tivotools the one I want to be using?

kodiakz
11-19-2005, 01:10 PM
Woohooo!! Thanks for all the help guys!! Finally got recording back so the wife can record desperate housewives and I can get some peace. Now is there a linux command that will replace all my hair that fell out.

One last question, now that I must run fakecall from bash, do I need to rerun the file if/when I reboot?

GAM
11-19-2005, 01:38 PM
From WeakKnees.com.

They were just the plain drives, not preloaded or anything.

Dale
Thank you, sir.
Are they as quiet as the orginial drives that come in the unit to begin with?

rbautch
11-19-2005, 02:03 PM
Woohooo!! Thanks for all the help guys!! Finally got recording back so the wife can record desperate housewives and I can get some peace. Now is there a linux command that will replace all my hair that fell out.

One last question, now that I must run fakecall from bash, do I need to rerun the file if/when I reboot?Only if you plan to leave a phone line connected for callerID and such. The enhancemt script sets up cron job to run fakecall every night.

Jeff_in_Bklyn
11-19-2005, 04:18 PM
if your tivo is already hacked all you need is superpatch. just download it from the links in the zipper howto and ftp them to tivo and run them. Superpatch modifies tivoapp not the kernel.

I am sorry while I was out I realised that it's the Tivoapp that I need to change back for the superpatch to work, how do I do that? I have a backup as per your guide.

Gunnyman
11-19-2005, 04:27 PM
your tivoapp if it was modified should have been backed up and is in tvbin as tivoapp.original.
Just rename it to tivoapp and that SHOULD restore it.

solsurfer
11-19-2005, 10:04 PM
Just to calrify - If I already have a hacked box (added a second larger drive) and am running 6.2, I can skip steps 1 & 2, start at step 3 and not lose any data (shows & season passes)? Do I plug both drives into my computer, or just the original primary drive?

Thanks!

rbautch
11-19-2005, 10:29 PM
You don't have a hacked box, you have a standard tivo with an upgraded hard drive. You can skip 1 and 2. Just the original primary drive.

dnemec123
11-19-2005, 11:05 PM
Did you have the Zipper install a new image for you or did you install it first yourself? Anyway, to get rid of error 51, run:tivosh /busybox/51killer.tcl
...and then reboot.
Nevermind... I used the Search function and found this answer.

Dale

dnemec123
11-19-2005, 11:37 PM
So now my Hughes and Samsung DirecTiVo's are Zipper'd, but I have a post-install question:

Should I be seeing some sort of Network Setup screen(s) under DirecTV Central / Messages and Setup / Settings?

If so, I'm not. Even though I have a WUSB11 wireless adapter connected and working (I can telnet into them just fine).

Thanks!
Dale

Dirac
11-19-2005, 11:55 PM
You'll only see that with S/W version 4. Version 6.2 has native networking capability but DirecTV has disabled/removed the menus to change the settings. That's the main reason why doing a network setup on a DTiVo (especially wireless) is no longer trivial. But the speed in 6.2 makes up for it.

To change network settings you'll either have to do so "manually" (running tcl scripts) or using the very handy Network module included in rbautch's tivowebplus package.

jedware
11-20-2005, 12:23 AM
Has anyone ever seen an "input\output error" after trying to run the zipper.sh?

I was unable to run the zipper tools disk on the first computer I was trying. Granted it is old but the PTV disk booted fine. I tried changing jumpers and a host of other items but I could never get it to work on the first computer.

Everything worked fine on the second computer, it was more of a hassle to open and plug items into, but everything ran without a hitch.

I was just wondering is there some CD Drives\Computers that have this type of known problem?

dnemec123
11-20-2005, 12:52 AM
When I Zipper'd my two drives, I ran into an issue where the Primary IDE cable wasn't fully seated into the motherboard... the BIOS and the Linux OS couldn't "see" the hard drive.

Once fully the IDE cable was fully seated, everything worked as advertised.

Dale

Gunnyman
11-20-2005, 10:02 AM
So now my Hughes and Samsung DirecTiVo's are Zipper'd, but I have a post-install question:

Should I be seeing some sort of Network Setup screen(s) under DirecTV Central / Messages and Setup / Settings?

If so, I'm not. Even though I have a WUSB11 wireless adapter connected and working (I can telnet into them just fine).

Thanks!
Dale

Nope there are no network config screens in 6.2

bengalfreak
11-20-2005, 10:25 AM
Only if you plan to leave a phone line connected for callerID and such. The enhancemt script sets up cron job to run fakecall every night.

This is still an option right? It doesn't automatically set up crond does it?

rbautch
11-20-2005, 11:41 AM
This is still an option right? It doesn't automatically set up crond does it?The installation of cron is optional, but if it's chosen, you get fakecall run every night.

GAM
11-20-2005, 11:45 AM
After zippering and getting systems up and running, is it okay to store new hacks i.e. bufferhack in the enhancements directory or is there a more preferred location?

dswallow
11-20-2005, 11:51 AM
Some suggestions:

Include some instructions to ensure wget is installed and resolv.conf is configured. Maybe even modify the script to ensure it can execute wget and that it can resolve domain names.

And instead of saying the script can be placed anywhere and run, include specific instructions to create a temporary directory for it someplace outside of /var.

I've got to pull a drive now (on an HR10-250) to reinstall some things because of failures during running the script that left a lot of stuff in that /var directory, which likely then caused it to clean it up when I rebooted, killing all the networking hacks before your script could be run successfully (and presumably moving lots of stuff out of /var or /var/hack to prevent this kind of thing in the future. ;)).

It'd also be a good idea, I think, to use a different technique to decide if an uninstall is necessary, since several steps happen before the uninstall script gets installed and if something fails prior to that, the novice is left being told to run the uninstall script first, but there's no script around to run -- nothing more than a couple directories and an empty file to delete. Maybe test for something that's done after the uninstall script is copied in place and confirmed to exist (not be an empty file).

rbautch
11-20-2005, 01:38 PM
Some suggestions:

Include some instructions to ensure wget is installed and resolv.conf is configured. Maybe even modify the script to ensure it can execute wget and that it can resolve domain names.I assume this comment is meant for the Enhancement script, not the Zipper. There are differences... the most current Enhancement script here (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=250680) uses wget to download the files archive called rbautch-files.tgz with all the hacks. For that, I'm planning to write some code to edit the resolv.conf file on the fly with your router IP address, or maybe I'll just use the IP address of the website so DNS is not needed to resolve the address. Note that this is only a requirement for the HR10-250 because DNS and other network parameters are not set in MFS. The version of the enhancement script that comes with the Zipper has no need for wget since all the files are copied to your drive with the Zipper. I may keep it that way to simplify the Zipper installation.

And instead of saying the script can be placed anywhere and run, include specific instructions to create a temporary directory for it someplace outside of /var.You don't have to place the script anywhere, because it already comes packaged in the /hacks directory by the Zipper. If you are referring to the latest Enhancement script linked above, even if it runs from /var, it won't put anything in /var except the TWP installation. Some hacks absolutely have to be in var because they are hardcoded to be there. For these hacks, I cleverly put them in /enhancements/varhacks, and had the script create symlinks in var that point to the actual hacks in /enhancements/varhacks/. Even though you see the hacks in var, you are just seeing the symlinks not the actual hacks. If var ever gets wiped, the symlinks will automatically get rebuilt because I append your author file to look for a flag file in /var, and then run a special rebuilding script if it doesnt find it. Very cool indeed. ;)

I've got to pull a drive now (on an HR10-250) to reinstall some things because of failures during running the script that left a lot of stuff in that /var directory, which likely then caused it to clean it up when I rebooted, killing all the networking hacks before your script could be run successfully (and presumably moving lots of stuff out of /var or /var/hack to prevent this kind of thing in the future. ;)).I'm still working on making the Zipper compatible with an HR10-250. I posted a test script awhile back, but it's still in the testing phase. The network hacks do not run at all on the HR10-250, because there's no provision in MFS to store network settings. The test copy of the Zipper simply appends your author file with ifconfig/insmod statements to get networking running. Since your author file is not in /var, var getting wiped would not affect your networking. In fact, the Zipper doesn't place anything in var that would affect networking. When the next version is released, it will have the symlinks code that is in the current Enhancment script, which will get everything out of var except TWP. As I said before, when a new Enhancment script is released, I like to let it "settle in" for awhile before I unleash it on the Zipper crowd.

It'd also be a good idea, I think, to use a different technique to decide if an uninstall is necessary, since several steps happen before the uninstall script gets installed and if something fails prior to that, the novice is left being told to run the uninstall script first, but there's no script around to run -- nothing more than a couple directories and an empty file to delete. Maybe test for something that's done after the uninstall script is copied in place and confirmed to exist (not be an empty file).I'm not sure I understand this. If an existing enhancement directory is found, you must run the uninstall script first, no exceptions. If you get the prompt to uninstall first, it means you've already run the script once, and you're trying to run it again which could be very bad. The main point of having to run the unistall script first is to restore files like rc.sysinit.author and .profile, so subsequent runs of the enhancement script doesn't put duplicate entries in there. The uninstall script also copies the rbautch-files.tgz archive to the current directory so you can immediately reinstall the script. I use this frequently for testing, when I have to uninstall/reinstall the script 20 times in a row. The criteria I use right now is to detect if the /enhancement script exists, and then promt for uninstall if it does. If the /enhancement script exists, it's 99% likely that your author was appended with some startup commands and your original author file needs to be restored before you run the script again.

edit: or did you mean if the uninstall script does not get successfully downloaded by wget?

Anyway, some pretty astute observations by you. Keeps me honest. :p

dswallow
11-20-2005, 01:49 PM
I assume this comment is meant for the Enhancement script, not the Zipper. There are differences... the most current Enhancement script here (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=250680) uses wget to download the files archive called rbautch-files.tgz with all the hacks. For that, I'm planning to write some code to edit the resolv.conf file on the fly with your router IP address, or maybe I'll just use the IP address of the website so DNS is not needed to resolve the address. Note that this is only a requirement for the HR10-250 because DNS and other network parameters are not set in MFS. The version of the enhancement script that comes with the Zipper has no need for wget since all the files are copied to your drive with the Zipper. I may keep it that way to simplify the Zipper installation.

You don't have to place the script anywhere, because it already comes packaged in the /hacks directory by the Zipper. If you are referring to the latest Enhancement script linked above, even if it runs from /var, it won't put anything in /var except the TWP installation. Some hacks absolutely have to be in var because they are hardcoded to be there. For these hacks, I cleverly put them in /enhancements/varhacks, and had the script create symlinks in var that point to the actual hacks in /enhancements/varhacks/. Even though you see the hacks in var, you are just seeing the symlinks not the actual hacks. If var ever gets wiped, the symlinks will automatically get rebuilt because I append your author file to look for a flag file in /var, and then run a special rebuilding script if it doesnt find it. Very cool indeed. ;)

I'm still working on making the Zipper compatible with an HR10-250. I posted a test script awhile back, but it's still in the testing phase. The network hacks do not run at all on the HR10-250, because there's no provision in MFS to store network settings. The test copy of the Zipper simply appends your author file with ifconfig/insmod statements to get networking running. Since your author file is not in /var, var getting wiped would not affect your networking. In fact, the Zipper doesn't place anything in var that would affect networking. When the next version is released, it will have the symlinks code that is in the current Enhancment script, which will get everything out of var except TWP. As I said before, when a new Enhancment script is released, I like to let it "settle in" for awhile before I unleash it on the Zipper crowd.

I'm not sure I understand this. If an existing enhancement directory is found, you must run the uninstall script without exception. If you get the prompt to uninstall first, it means you've already run the script once, and you're trying to run it again which could be very bad. The main point of having to run the unistall script first is to restore files like rc.sysinit.author and .profile, so subsequent runs of the enhancement script doesn't put duplicate entries in there. The uninstall script also copies the rbautch-files.tgz archive to the current directory so you can immediately reinstall the script. I use this frequently for testing, when I have to uninstall/reinstall the script 20 times in a row. The criteria I use right now is to detect if the /enhancement script exists, and then promt for uninstall if it does. If the /enhancement script exists, it's 99% likely that your author was appended with some startup commands and your original author file needs to be restored before you run the script again.

Anyway, some pretty astute observations by you. Keeps me honest. :p

Yes, I apparently posted in the wrong thread. Sorry about that.

With regard to the uninstall script, I have not yet had the script run without error and as it started and was displaying errors, I'd kill it before it got too far along. THe two times this happened, it really had done nothing more than create the directory and one subdirectory, and one time it also created the empty file which should've been the big download. I had no "wget" for it to run the first time, so that was the cause, and then the second time no host names were resolving because I never edited resolv.conf (never had a need to since nothing I'd added required resolving names). Before I was going to run it a third time I just tested resolving names and it still wouldn't so figured I'd reboot thee unit first, and then it apparently rebuilt the whole /var directory since nothing I'd added pre-script works anymore (had that happen once before to me, so though I've not pulled the drive to check, I'm pretty sure that's what I'm going to find).

In other words nothing had installed because nothing coul dbe downloaded, but I couldn't jsut retry the script because the directory it checks for had been created, so it told me to run the uninstall script -- but there was no uninstall script to run yet since nothing had worked during the install. I was just suggesting that a different test might be more appropriate, like looking for the uninstall script itself (though with wget but with no resolving, it'd be a 0-byte file after that part of the install).


BTW, if it helps this is what I'd originally followed when hacking the HR10-250: http://www.imbetterthanyou.com/hr10-250/


I'll try again later today on another HR10-250 that's still got networking working -- I don't really feel like pulling drives at the moment. :)

rbautch
11-20-2005, 01:55 PM
Ah, now I get it. Sounds like it does need an adjustment. I think I'll put some check in right after the wget downloads to see if the files actually downloaded successfully. I'll halt the script if they're not, so the enhancements directory never gets created. Of course, I first have to fix the DNS stuff in resolv.conf. Can you post the exact contents of that file here?

dswallow
11-20-2005, 02:02 PM
Ah, now I get it. Sounds like it does need an adjustment. I think I'll put some check in right after the wget downloads to see if the files actually downloaded successfully. I'll halt the script if they're not, so the enhancements directory never gets created. Of course, I first have to fix the DNS stuff in resolv.conf. Can you post the exact contents of that file here?
This is what is in /etc/resolv.conf as the HR10-250 comes from DirecTV/TiVo:

# Copyright (c) 2001 TiVo Inc.
search engr.teleworld.com
nameserver 192.168.14.1
nameserver 192.168.14.2

champ9533
11-20-2005, 02:19 PM
Is it possible to hack a 6.2 directv tivo and make it compatible with a cable signal b/c I don't have Directv anymore. Thanks for any help anyone can give.

dswallow
11-20-2005, 02:25 PM
Is it possible to hack a 6.2 directv tivo and make it compatible with a cable signal b/c I don't have Directv anymore. Thanks for any help anyone can give.
Nope, not in any manner whatsoever is it possible to do this.

champ9533
11-20-2005, 02:34 PM
errrgghhh. but thanks for the help

ksin291
11-20-2005, 05:24 PM
ok, I followed all of the steps on the tivo zipper page and I've gotten to the point where I'm supposed to telnet into my tivo. Problem is that I can't get into it, I'm using a linksys usb 2.0 network adapter. I looked at the network adapter and I see no link lights lit, the adapter works fine on my pc although I have to install drivers to get it to work. Any suggestions?

Gunnyman
11-20-2005, 06:03 PM
linksys 200M version 2?
won't work get a Netgear FA120 instead

ksin291
11-20-2005, 06:17 PM
linksys 200M version 2?
won't work get a Netgear FA120 instead


wow that sucks! my friend is using the linksys 200m and it's working for him, maybe it's a versions 1 :confused:. problem is I don't have anywhere local to purchase the netgear. :(

Mr. Soze
11-20-2005, 06:18 PM
linksys 200M version 2?
won't work get a Netgear FA120 instead
Thanks for the info. I bought the Linksys, and it would have taken me
a long while to figure that out when it wouldn't work, me being almost
totally inept at this stuff.

I've built the CD's, bought the new hard drive, and am ready to roll
when I swap the Linksys.

ksin291
11-20-2005, 06:22 PM
Just called my buddy and his linksys doesn't say ver2 like mine so yeah, I'm screwed. I have to try and find the netgear, thanks.

ksin291
11-20-2005, 06:34 PM
will the WG111 work? the local bestbuy carries this one and I could run out and get it now. Any other usb network adapter that will work could help too, I'm just trying to get this thing local and not have to order it. I still get a hardware error when I go to the now playing list. I'm guessing that this won't go away until I can telnet into the tivo and run the script, am I right?

rbautch
11-20-2005, 07:30 PM
Most adapters sold in stores today won't work because the firmware is updated to a version that wasn't available when the tivo networking code was written. Your best bet is Ebay. You can try to find one in stores, but pay attention to the firmware version. Check the tivo website for the compatible adapters/firmware.

GAM
11-20-2005, 07:49 PM
Rbautch, after running your great tools what directory should future hacks be placed in?
Enhancements or somewhere else?

Gunnyman
11-20-2005, 08:10 PM
it's your tivo store em where ever you want man.

Gunnyman
11-20-2005, 08:11 PM
will the WG111 work? the local bestbuy carries this one and I could run out and get it now. Any other usb network adapter that will work could help too, I'm just trying to get this thing local and not have to order it. I still get a hardware error when I go to the now playing list. I'm guessing that this won't go away until I can telnet into the tivo and run the script, am I right?

A clear and delete everything will make it go away as well.

dswallow
11-20-2005, 08:36 PM
it's your tivo store em where ever you want man.
Technically that's true, but that's also what leads to all sorts of problems down the road... such as name conflicts. There should be some sort of guidelines to how hacks/mods are named and stored. At minimum, there should at least be a namespace for users to do anything within and a namespace that is controlled better.

Within the enhancement script, it would appear that the /enhancements/varhacks directory is the desired location for mods/hacks to be placed that don't otherwise have a specific install location identified.

Just as there are some standards in Linux/Unix where app-specific configuration files vs. app-specific static files vs. app-specific temporary files all should end up, there should be some sort of consistent guidelines followed for mods/hacks. If only for sanity's sake when trying to figure out what's been done.

Uncle Spanky
11-20-2005, 08:52 PM
I've got a couple of DTV tivo units, that are both 6.2 so I decided to run the zipper on them both. The first unit worked great, and is now "hacked", but the second unit is just sitting at the "welcome. please wait" screen. I've looked at the drive jumper settings, and its cable select. I've re-run the zipper a few times, and it gets through the script settings just fine...I'm stumped :confused:

Any ideas how to get this configured correctly ? It was working perfectly before the hack, so I'd have to guess that the hardware is fine...

Thanks

sb

ksin291
11-20-2005, 09:19 PM
I went out and purchased the wg111 since I had to go back to bestbuy anyway to return the linksys adapter. I purchased the wg because it says tivo compatible right on the box, so I think great it should work. I get home plug the wg in and nothing, by now i'm like wtf. So I go to tivo's sight and it says that the wg111 is compatible but with tivo software version 7.1 or later. Since my directivo is version 6.2 I guess I'm screwed then right?

GAM
11-20-2005, 09:26 PM
Technically that's true, but that's also what leads to all sorts of problems down the road... such as name conflicts. There should be some sort of guidelines to how hacks/mods are named and stored. At minimum, there should at least be a namespace for users to do anything within and a namespace that is controlled better.

Within the enhancement script, it would appear that the /enhancements/varhacks directory is the desired location for mods/hacks to be placed that don't

Just as there are some standards in Linux/Unix where app-specific configuration files vs. app-specific static files vs. app-specific temporary files all should end up, there should be some sort of consistent guidelines followed for mods/hacks. If only for sanity's sake when trying to figure out what's been done.


Thanks for the info!

rbautch
11-20-2005, 09:29 PM
I went out and purchased the wg111 since I had to go back to bestbuy anyway to return the linksys adapter. I purchased the wg because it says tivo compatible right on the box, so I think great it should work. I get home plug the wg in and nothing, by now i'm like wtf. So I go to tivo's sight and it says that the wg111 is compatible but with tivo software version 7.1 or later. Since my directivo is version 6.2 I guess I'm screwed then right?Yes, screwed. The correct order is: check the tivo website, pick a compatible adapter, purchase it. Looks like you did that in reverse order. ;)

ksin291
11-20-2005, 09:35 PM
Yes, screwed. The correct order is: check the tivo website, pick a compatible adapter, purchase it. Looks like you did that in reverse order. ;)

Yeah I figured that, I went into setup and set the tivo to delete everything and restart just to get rid of the hardware error that I was getting when I went into the now playing list. That won't affect any of the hacks that I loaded on to the hard drive before will it? I figure that at least for now I can setup my season passes and such until I can get my hands on a compatible adapter.

Gunnyman
11-20-2005, 10:44 PM
it just resests the mfs database where shows and other data are stored.
Hacks will still be in place.

rbautch
11-20-2005, 10:46 PM
...but network settings wiped?

Gunnyman
11-20-2005, 10:54 PM
Yeah I think so

ksin291
11-20-2005, 11:11 PM
Yeah I think so


So i'll have to take the hard drive back out of the Tivo and set the ip address again?

Uncle Spanky
11-20-2005, 11:22 PM
I've got a couple of DTV tivo units, that are both 6.2 so I decided to run the zipper on them both. The first unit worked great, and is now "hacked", but the second unit is just sitting at the "welcome. please wait" screen. I've looked at the drive jumper settings, and its cable select. I've re-run the zipper a few times, and it gets through the script settings just fine...I'm stumped :confused:

Any ideas how to get this configured correctly ? It was working perfectly before the hack, so I'd have to guess that the hardware is fine...

Thanks

sb

Update - I have fooled around with the bootpage setting to see if I could get a rise out of the system, and to veryify that the correct bootpage was being loaded. When I set the bootpage to hdb4 the system did get through the welcome screen, and then rebooted. I then ran the zipper script again (for the 10th time) to reset the bootpage to the correct setting...still I get stuck on the welcome page...

any ideas ?

sb

kodiakz
11-21-2005, 12:05 AM
Gunny and rbautch,
Just wanted to say thanks again for helping me get 'er going again!! Never could get ftp, but at least I was able to run the fakecall script. I tried putting wget, dos2unix, and tar in the busybox dir, but it still won;t fully run the enhancements script--I never get the chance to answer yes or no to the installs after answering y to the express install.

rbautch
11-21-2005, 08:23 AM
That means you're not following the directions for WinXP SP2 users.

rbautch
11-21-2005, 08:25 AM
So i'll have to take the hard drive back out of the Tivo and set the ip address again?First see if it will connect with DHCP. Then run /enhancements/net-launch.sh.

rbautch
11-21-2005, 08:26 AM
Update - I have fooled around with the bootpage setting to see if I could get a rise out of the system, and to veryify that the correct bootpage was being loaded. When I set the bootpage to hdb4 the system did get through the welcome screen, and then rebooted. I then ran the zipper script again (for the 10th time) to reset the bootpage to the correct setting...still I get stuck on the welcome page...

any ideas ?

sbWhat are the model numbers of the tivos? You could just do a full copy of the hacked drive to the non-hacked drive with mfstools or dd.

SteelersFan
11-21-2005, 09:42 AM
Gunny and rbautch,
Just wanted to say thanks again for helping me get 'er going again!! Never could get ftp, but at least I was able to run the fakecall script. I tried putting wget, dos2unix, and tar in the busybox dir, but it still won;t fully run the enhancements script--I never get the chance to answer yes or no to the installs after answering y to the express install.
Guys,
Correct me if I'm wrong, but, don't you have to answer "No" to that expert question to get all the other questions? Or am I thinking of something else?

Uncle Spanky
11-21-2005, 10:31 AM
What are the model numbers of the tivos? You could just do a full copy of the hacked drive to the non-hacked drive with mfstools or dd.

They are both the same Hughes 351 - one with 120mb (not working), the other with 2 drives to make 180mb (working). I'd like to keep the programming and settings in place if possible, so if I could get by without re-imaging the OS I'd prefer that route.

I was thinking that I could look at the directory structure of the working unit, and copy the files to a CD via FTP, then compare the CD to the structure of the non-working unit, and see if all of the files are there, and have the same size / date.

The non-working unit was orignially a 3.1 DTV Tivo OS, then 4.01 hacked, then 6.2 upgraded by slices. I wonder if any of the files necessary for the zipper to work are missing or have been changed by the upgrade path from the different OS versions ? Its been working under 6.2 for about the last 2 months without any issues, but its history reveals its a frankenstein.

Thanks

sb.

otsp
11-21-2005, 10:43 AM
After my Phillips DSR6000's HD crashed (constant rebooting), I replaced the drive with a Seagate 160GB drive. Using mfstools 2.0, I restored a tivo.bak file I had made over a year ago, and the utility appeared to work. This time, the Tivo booted up fine, and I went through the whole activation process. However, it won't record because of the Error 51 that this thread refers to earlier. Restarting and resetting does not help. In system info, it says it should be able to record 127 hours, that my account is in good standing, that the service number is unavailable with all zeroes, and that the software version (updated overnight) is now 3.1.0c2. The Zipper stuff looks interesting, but it looks as if it's designed to work with the DSR700 and software version 6.2. Is there any solution out there for me? I'm clueless about all this networking stuff, so if I can just hook the drive up to my PC to fix it with any recommended utilities, I'd rather do it that way. Thanks in advance for suggestions, links, etc.

Bob

otsp
11-21-2005, 04:13 PM
After some more focused searches, I found the obvious answer - clear and delete everything, which worked. Thanks for being such a great resource, and sorry for the double-post!

Bob

slydog75
11-21-2005, 06:32 PM
Clear and delete everything fixed the Error51?

Gunnyman
11-21-2005, 06:38 PM
yes it does

Ocelot
11-21-2005, 07:07 PM
I've been searching...here is the problem. everything was working fine
Dtivo series two 6.2 hacked with the zipper

Today, I came home and found that I can't connect.
I could last night fine.

I can ping and get a good response.

I can't telnet (get "could not open connection to the host on port 23, connect failed)

I can't get in through tivoweb (say's connection refused)

I tried rebooting the tivo..hacks are there


The only thing I can think of that happened between yesterday and today, was I ordered a pay per view through my remote.



Any sugestions on where to start?